One-Click Mystery

November 16, 2008 on 8:30 pm | In Updates by Dallas Kashuba | 92 Comments

 

I was recently digging into our database collecting some information on PHP usage by looking at how many people were using our One-Click Web App Installs.  Nearly all of our One-Clicks are PHP so it was a quick way to estimate total PHP usage by our customers.  While looking at the data I noticed something strange, though.  Our users are using our One-Clicks less and less!  ”Weird”, I thought.

I collected this data by looking at every currently active account of ours and counting up the ones that have installed at least one One-Click (not the total number of One-Clicks in use!).  I also tracked the year each account was first made active in our system.  It doesn’t count people using PHP apps they installed themselves, and it does count people who may have set up a One-Click and then abandoned it. This is not a scientific analysis by any means, but any clear trends should still be pretty reliable.

The clear trend we see is a mostly upward trend with a spike in usage by accounts signed up in 2006, and then a pretty quick drop-off over the last couple of years.  I was expecting to see a continuous upward trend over the entire time and was surprised to see that drop-off there.  The graph shows percentages so the number of actual accounts isn’t a major factor.

I have a few theories about the slowing of One-Click Install Usage…

  • Our users signing up over the last two years are more tech-savvy than those in earlier years and more of them are choosing software other than what we provide and installing it themselves.
  • More people are going back to the days of static HTML.  (Seems unlikely.)
  • Increased interest and awareness in more ‘hot’ tech like Ruby on Rails has resulted in users moving away from PHP itself, and our One-Click Installs along with it.
  • More people are finding their Web App needs met by ‘Web 2.0′ websites like Flickr and Facebook.  (But then, what are they doing with their websites instead?)

The number of new users coming on board has not slowed at all so people are definitely still finding a need for tried and true, full power web hosting.

So… Tell us why you do or do not use DreamHost One-Click Installs for your website, and WHY!

92 Responses to “One-Click Mystery”

  1. marhgil Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    i’m only using Wordpress and I use the One Click Install. It’s really easy to use, less hassle when upgrading.

  2. Christian Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Which One Click’s have seen the most pronounced drop in use? Perhaps it’s just an issue of saturation?

  3. Chris Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Is it tracking fresh installs or also including upgrades? I use One Click for WordPress upgrades. Why wouldn’t I?! It takes all of the headaches out of the process for me. :)

  4. Rhett Soveran Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    I absolutely use it on all my (WP) sites. It’s easy. It’s always up-to-date to upgrade (unlike Fantastico) and it’s easy. I could do this all manually, but why would I? The only thing is I wish it didn’t install so many themes, but I understand why you do that.

  5. Marc Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    I don’t use one-click because I’m used to one-click on other hosts being “old software that may or may not be configured correctly.”

    If the DH setup really has advantages over the periodic FTP upgrade path, you might try rebranding it so it stands apart from the crowd. Call it “Kick@$$ OneClick” or some fancy name. Honestly, a little bit of info about why it’s so worthwhile would be very helpful.

  6. Nation Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    We use wordpress one-click … it’s better then the initial upgrade and you can do the auto updates.

    I wish the plugins were more up to date … and/or a “lite install” option with less themes (since it takes a little time and is a pain to delete them all).

    Or just add the http://www.RevolutionTwo.com themes and drop most of the others … or let me set up a profile for any site or wordpress install that I did that would only add the themes and plugins I really wanted.

    to Marc, the one click wordpress works really well, and advantage I have seen is that you can upgrade wordpress builds across multiple installs at once … and can use the easy update for plugins (I had issues with that part before). The biggest thing is it saves you time.

  7. DouglasVB Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    I tried using the Wordpress OneClick install (because I was trying to be lazy) but it didn’t install correctly. I purged the install and did my own clean and fresh installation from the Wordpress.org site.

    I’ve got no problems installing software on my own. The one-click installs do point to some interesting software that I hadn’t tried before.

  8. pfctdayelise Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    I use One-click especially for MediaWiki and Wordpress. I have also used Gallery. The super-easy upgrading is an especially awesome feature.

    I haven’t used it for Textpattern because…. it’s not available. :)

    You may well be right about people moving to web frameworks such as Ruby on Rails or Django. That is certainly where my interest lies, and anything Dreamhost does to better support these (and similar) frameworks will be well appreciated.

  9. bhengh Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Dreamhost One-click is the best auto-installer I’ve tried of any host. I don’t mind installing apps myself, but the one-click upgrade is what sold me on it. It is very nice to not have to worry about downloading the updates for all my apps, I can just go on the control panel and click “upgrade” for everything.

    I would love to see many more apps in the one-click install.

    The new “easy” mode install is not for me. I’ve had problems with it, and I need to be able to customize anything I use.

  10. nine Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    People take 2-3 yrs between website refreshes.

  11. crossn81 Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Some one-click’s are pretty useless. I was going to play with Drupal but the one click offered no customization features which makes it all pretty useless!

    I love the Wordpress though…

  12. mx Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    I install apps myself, usually using subversion. They’re easier to keep up to date, and it can all be done from the shell. A slow panel never stops me from upgrading, and I can pick and chose which versions of things to adopt.

  13. Mark Rose Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Because I roll my own :)

  14. TB Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    WordPress… I can mess around with plugins/themes I want to mess with (compared to the easy one-click).

    ZenPhoto… Pictures are uploaded into my space, not in some unknown server I don’t have the ability to touch. Easier to rsync.

  15. Tim Yang Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    I had serious upgrading problems with a one-click install that nearly derailed my forum website.

    But I haven’t used one click installs so much because the software I want isn’t on it.

    You need a wider variety of software. Give me a choice of 5 or 6 forums, for example. Don’t give me just phpbb. It gets the most spam.

  16. Anonymous Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    I write all code, so, no need.

  17. Lynna Landstreet Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    I used to use the one-click installer a lot, but I do find I’m using it less and less as time goes on. There are several reasons for that.

    First – I find that increasingly as time goes on, I’m using Drupal for more and more of my sites. And that’s not available as a one-click, except via the completely useless “easy” mode which doesn’t allow you to do anything with it at all.

    Second – I’ve had serious problems with the one-click installer in a few cases when doing upgrades. I think this was mainly with Gallery – it claimed to have upgraded it but really didn’t and everything ended up out of sync.

    Third – in some cases when a major upgrade is released, necessitating that sites be gradually migrated over rather than just upgraded, you’ve gone ahead and put the major upgrade in as a one-click install upgrade, despite that fact that trying to upgrade a site that way would probably hopelessly break it. In some cases you’ve done this even though security and bug fix upgrades were continuing to be released for the previous version.

    I’m thinking particularly of Joomla with that last one – they tell you right in the documentation for 1.5 that you cannot just upgrade a Joomla 1.0 site to 1.5 – you have to treat it as if you were migrating to a new CMS: setting up a test site, gradually bringing your content over while testing, scouting out new versions of themes and extensions because none of the old ones would be compatible, etc. But your Joomla installer went straight to 1.5 as soon as it was released, meaning that Joomla users couldn’t even tell if there were critical security upgrades out for Joomla 1.0 (which at a couple of points there were), and only had the choice of applying a guaranteed site-destroying “upgrade” to a new CMS that couldn’t actually be upgraded to, or going back to manula upgrades.

    So, all things combined, I began finding the one-click installer less and less useful as time went on. If you:

    a) offered a wider range of software – not just for the useless “easy” version but for people who want to be able to actually do something with their sites;

    b) had better quality control so you didn’t end up with occasional weird glitches from the upgrader as happened with Gallery;

    c) checked to see how major an upgrade was and when whether a one-click upgrade was remotely feasible before adding it to the installer;

    I might still be using it more often.

  18. m4cc4s Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    I have a one click install of wordpress at the moment. But as a website developer I don’t know how long for. I may keep it and build a site around it, but then I may just build an entire new site.

    I’m one of those techy people that are never happy with thier website, so change for me happens on a daily basis.

    Out of all the One-Click installs wordpress is the only one I would use.

  19. Bob Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 12:23 am

    Because your shit takes forever to upgrade wordpress because it completely backs up multi-gigabyte directory including stuff like pictures that wouldn’t even get messed up in an upgrade. It’s 10 seconds to run svn sw new.version.wordpress.com versesu 30 minutes for your upgrade script.

  20. John Knowles Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 1:05 am

    My personal reason is my knowledge of web development has seriously increased since I entered the industry and I like to have the ability to play about with the code of the systems I use to provide further functionality etc…

  21. Dan Sketcher Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 2:36 am

    I use the one-clicks for wordpress and for mediawiki. Although I am a developer by trade I am perfectly happy _not worrying_ about this stuff for my blog and personal wiki, and focussing on stuff I actually want to bother with.

    I love the one click install!

  22. Chris Keene Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 2:44 am

    Two thoughts:

    In the last couple of years sites like wordpress.COM (and many others which provide a free service) have really taken off, perhaps those just wanting a blog are no longer going for DH style hosting.

    Maybe there is a delay in using the one-clicks. Perhaps people sign up for an account, and then six months later start trying out the one click installs. So a lag, crunching the data in a years time may show far more for 2007/08.

    Chris

  23. Nix Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 4:53 am

    Like most of the other comments on here, I use one-click for WP as well as mediawiki. Yes, I could just as easily do the install manually, but this makes it so much easier.

    I hope you’re not thinking of taking my one-clicks away! If so many fewer people are using them, then I don’t see how letting those of us still using them keep them would be using too many resources : )

  24. Andrew Timson Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 6:35 am

    I had set up WordPress and MediaWiki with one-click installs, but between slow refreshes after an update, and the pain of getting everything working again after a one-click upgrade (that didn’t seem to always copy all of the old files over), I’ve gone over to manual installs.

  25. vicm3 Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 7:03 am

    Well, we used the one clic install, for mediawiki & wordpress, for gallery just don’t suit our needs (thinking on move to zenphoto, but not in easy mode), also as others had point, we use drupal + svn to mantain several of our sites and we’re confortable with, also zenphoto and drupal are not in the advanced install… we even had a moodle on one clic, I can think we use a lot of php apps that you don’t offer on one clic install, say; phpESP (surveys), phorum, smf board, drupal and so on.

    The one clic upgrades are really a nice thing, but gets in trouble when you decided to move from the originial directory.

  26. andy Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 7:05 am

    1-click is great if you’re starting out fresh, but if you’re migrating from another host it can’t be used :(

  27. Focx Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 7:39 am

    I really appreciate oneclick installs. I use both advanced and easy versions and they behave like they should, never had any problem. It also saves me from downloading and re-uploading software – because I just need one click! A bigger database of software would of course be appreciated though.

    Lately I thought I’d love a myownserver-alternative to dropbox. Haven’t found a suitable application yet, though. This, as a one-click install, would be really great.

  28. BUGabundo Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 8:26 am

    I use a lot of zenphoto installs, but cant use the OneClick ’cause I have no SSH/FTPs access to it!

    The manual install, has one HUGE prob: its a mess to upgrade.

  29. Chris Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 8:43 am

    I did use the One Click Installs, but I found that WordPress just seemed to run faster when installed manually. Plus, using SVN makes updating oh so easy.

  30. Chad Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 8:47 am

    Does this could the ‘easy mode’ one-clicks? Or just the ‘advanced’ mode? If not, that would explain part of the recent trends. I also agree that some needs are being met by newer web 2.0 sites, and I also agree that because very few new one-clicks are introduced, people may be moving to other newer or more sophisticated options for which a one-click simply doesn’t exist.

  31. April Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 9:56 am

    I use the advanced one clicks and love it and recommend it to my friends that ask about hosting. I know how (and often do) install other programs manually but the one click makes it just that much more convenient for me.

    It could be that people are wanting more variety in the options of programs to install. I know that while I like Gallery, I find it overwhelming for what I need and would like a more simple gallery program to choose from. So maybe more options for the same type features (galleries, forums etc) would be good.

  32. Simon Jessey Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 10:21 am

    I avoid all third-party applications because they are more susceptible to security issues. The applications I build myself aren’t necessarily more secure than third-party apps, but their uniqueness makes them less vulnerable – particularly to automated attacks.

    Also, I’m a total geek when it comes to this sort of thing, and I’m lame enough to actually get personal satisfaction and enjoyment from building apps and reinventing the wheel.

  33. Andrew Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    I’m scared of one-clicks because they seem like a black box to me. I’ve never had anything go wrong with them, but if something does, I wouldn’t know where to start digging in order to fix it. I guess I just feel that I have more control over every aspect when I do it myself.

  34. Dan Keenan Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 11:39 am

    I would use one clicks more if Drupal was an advanced one click. Upgrades would be easier etc. I know Joomla is offered, but it’s too much of a pain in the a** to use.

  35. Tim Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    I would suspect that new people creating blogs (Wordpress) % wise, has gone down for Dreamhost since 2006.

    Having a blog is not nearly has popular as it once was

  36. Clay Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    I’m in the 2004 group, and I have a Mediawiki one-click install because I wanted Mediawiki and my knowledge of the unix command line is somewhat limited. With one-click, I didn’t have to wade through the documents in order to figure it out.

    That said, I didn’t install Mediawiki until this year(I wanted a wiki for my workplace. It didn’t exist, so I’m making it.). One-click installs have been around since some point in 2004, I think. Perhaps some of the newer users just haven’t gotten to the point where they have some new thing they want to try, and thus want to install another piece of software.

  37. Eric Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    It depends. Usually if there’s something I’d like set up and you guys have it as a 1-Click install, I’ll go with that.

    I recently installed a phpBB forum, and I didn’t use the 1-Click install though. I literally went to install the forum about 2 hours after 3.0.3 was released, and that version wasn’t up on DreamHost yet.

    It didn’t take me that long, I just uploaded the zip file and SSH’d in to unzip it.

  38. pixie Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    I’ve been a user for a pretty long while now, not sure how long but maybe 1999 or 2000. Hard to remember it’s been so long!

    I love one-click install. I wish you had movable type. I do not like type pad or wordpress. I’ve used the phpBB one several times which also has a nice interface. I am fairly tech savy as I used to code XHTML and CSS for a living, and I even taught myself how to write loops in Java (not terribly impressive, but it just means I could figure out how to get java running to even try!).

    I love the 1-click installs. I would use the zen cart but I use paypal and haven’t needed it yet, might one day though as I have some future plans. So my most used is phpBB and right now I don’t need to have any forums really. Make a moveable type one, that would be very cool! I need to upgrade mine right now and I am dreading it. I love 1-click because installs are boring, frustrating and… boring (aka time sink and as a mom of a 14 month old, and I am an Interface Developer by day and mom aka small business owner at night I don’t have much time).

  39. buxx Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    Hell yes, i use the one-click-install, especially for my wordpress installs. It is still the best solluction for upgrades, while 2.7 is not there.

  40. Demian Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    I used to use One-click for Wordpress, but abbandoned it when you added a lot of skins to the install.
    I installed it manually (it’s pretty trivial, really) and since an auto-upgrade plugin has appeared for WP, I don’t need One-Click anymore and have WP configured the way I like it (with few plugins and a couple of skins.)

  41. John Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    I had been using one-click installs until I decided to get serious about some of my sites. This meant I had to customize code for the applications (mainly Wordpress). I also decided to implement Subversion at the same time. In ways it’s been harder, but in other ways I could never go back. Subversion in particular has made things so much nicer… So thanks for providing that too! :-)

  42. Crazed Geek Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    I stopped using the one-click installs when I decided that I wanted Drupal on all of my sites, and didn’t want to bother with the easy installation. I’d rather install that through a one-click install, but I need the extreme customization that only hand-installing it can provide.

  43. Harold Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 7:55 pm

    Unrelated question – but how did you create the chart in this article?

    By the way – I use one-click installs for simple applications, but if it is something more complex which I will want to modify later on I will install myself.

  44. Lyn Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Timely. I’m about to install a thing, but not via one-click. I wouldn’t go so far as to call myself tech savvy, but the only one-click option for what I want is Joomla and Joomla and I don’t get along, so I had to look elsewhere.

    Which is why I one-click less. :D

  45. Chris T. Says:
    November 17th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    I used it for WP, but I don’t bother for anything else. And you did hit the nail on the head — Rails is a big thing for me.

  46. Itamar Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 6:50 am

    i use it allot. most of all in joomla.
    its a great feature.

  47. Amanda Page Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 7:57 am

    I realize this is not the official support request channel, but I’ve sent multiple unanswered requests through there over the past 24 hours, including a callback request, and have received not a single response. So, since you seem to pay regular attention to your blog, I’m requesting a callback or email through your comments.

    My email has been down for 24 hours, I’ve been a customer for over a decade, and am extremely unhappy.

    My confidence in Dreamhost has been eroding over time, and this is me at breaking point. I am reviewing new hosting plans, as I cannot be without my work email accounts for this long.

    Please advise.

  48. Miles Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 9:16 am

    So far, I use two 1-Click Installs [wordpress and phpbb]. I have an interest in several more, but have yet to install and implement the others I’m interested in into my website due to having slightly more pressing things to attend to at the moment.

    I enjoy the convenience//ease of the 1-Click Installs; wordpress I find is very easy to upgrade using an automatic upgrade plugin I found.

    One Thing Though: I do remember waiting to install a particular 1-Click Install, either phpbb or something I abandoned wanting to install, due to either there being a significantly newer version Out There than what DH had [slightly more probable if I trust my wonky memory] or some weird announcement DH made about “version 4″ and “version 5″ of some “man behind the curtain” infrastructure no longer being supported unless the User did Scary McGuyver Stuff. Whatever the “Why Wait?” issue was, it got resolved “on its own” and I went ahead.

    Miles.

  49. Dan Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 11:32 am

    I’ve used several of the one-clicks, and they all seem to work well. Like several of the earlier commenters, I’d like more control over my Drupal site, but it’s tough to give up the no hassle upgrades.

    Other installs, including Word Press, Gallery, and Zen Cart all work as promised.

    Perhaps you could add the ability to setup a Django or Rails environment via a one click.

    Keep up the great work!

  50. Mike Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Our users signing up over the last two years are more tech-savvy than those in earlier years and more of them are choosing software other than what we provide and installing it themselves.

    I’m guessing it’s that one…

    But I’d credit the change to dropping the $97 cash discount and targeting a market that can afford to pay more than $20/year.

    Also, to those bashing the one-click upgrade: You know you can do a one-click install, then do manual upgrades from there, right? That’s what I do with Wordpress. The install is fine, but the manual upgrade option makes more sense (especially with any mods).

  51. Adam Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    I’ve used One-Click Installs for a couple of things, but the main open-source PHP app I use is phpBB, and I customize it so heavily that I need to apply upgrades by hand anyway, so the One-Click Install really wouldn’t do anything for me.

  52. Chris S. Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Like Lynna Landstreet I’ve had Gallery blow up on me when trying to do a one-click upgrade. So I like to use one-click installs for new software and sites, but I do upgrades manually because I don’t trust the upgrader (even for wordpress)…

  53. Brennan Wellman Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    I don’t use one-clicks because unlike other people, I enjoy getting down and dirty with the application code and doing things manually.

  54. Steven C Says:
    November 18th, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    We don’t use one-click at the moment because the two that I would use are not up to date. That is Gallery and Joomla. The manual upgrade for Gallery 2.3 is a bit of a pita and with Joomla I might as well do it manually if I’m going to have to up an archive anyway and I don’t like the upgrade because it wipes the sites. Oh and we like OpenGoo more than dotProject.

  55. TorbenGB Says:
    November 19th, 2008 at 1:16 am

    I use one-click for all my WordPress and phpBB sites because the setup is easy and FAST! It would be a hassle to have to do this myself, and the one-click upgrading is at least as useful – otherwise my installs would be old (insecure?). I like that I am still able to customize my installations.

  56. Yann Dìnendal Says:
    November 19th, 2008 at 3:13 am

    I am using Dotclear 2 (http://www.dotclear.org) which I find better than WordPress, and has a “One minute install” automated installation, as well as automated upgrades without using ftp !
    Dotclear is the most used CMS in France, I believe, and it is now entierly translated in english (website, blog, documentation, help forums, …) !

  57. Kathy Says:
    November 19th, 2008 at 5:33 am

    I am a developer and programmer but have been using One-Click quite heavily to see how suitable the applications are and how upgrade procedures work. I do this for clients and non-profit organizations who want to take more control of their web sites. In addition, I typically set up a demo site or sites for them to try on my hosting plan too.

    My personal preference for dynamic sites is Perl CGI scripting, but the sad truth is that if you want something to “take” it has to be PHP-based.

  58. jidanni Says:
    November 19th, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Having wrote part of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family
    I cannot risk any one-click excitement.

  59. One-Click Wordpress Says:
    November 20th, 2008 at 1:47 am

    Just another user only using it for wordpress.

  60. John Says:
    November 20th, 2008 at 3:49 am

    I’ve used it for a few things on there. phpBB and WP being the 2 main things, though I’ve fiddled with several others on there. I cant stand the base installs so I always tend to pick the “Advanced” install and upgrade manually from there since I may or may not play with the code of each… Right now, I have 2 phpBB boards for 2 different groups, plus my WP on my site as well as the WP on my wifes’ site.

    As I noticed at least one other commenter saying, too many themes installed by default. I think I deleted at least 90% of them right off the bat. You might want to consider making that an additional option, on the advanced at least, where you can pick to have them installed. Either as one whole pack or separated themes or even groups of themes by design style…

    Maybe you guys should consider having a poll of most wanted one clicks or finding some very bored users who have experience and would like to have a free 6 months of mid range vps or year or 2 of hosting in exchange for 2 or so one click creations. Bartering seems an odd business technique in these days. But really, why not. so long as your coders take a quick peek through it and make sure its all kosher, it’s win win. Someone *cough* gets a free 6 month mid range vps and you get the new one click…

  61. Jayson Says:
    November 20th, 2008 at 6:00 am

    I use Wordpress.

    I tired a couple of the photo management one-clicks but didn’t like the customization options. Now I’m trying this other content management system on my other domain.

    As a designer, not a developer, I’m only comfortable writing static code, so I’m in a weird position between what I can do and what the one-clicks offer. Still I think they’re very cool and am glad to have them available.

  62. Trav Says:
    November 20th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    So how many of the accounts in that spike from 2005 onward were “Crazy Domain Insane” accounts? Most of those people were just idiots looking for a bargain anyway right? Maybe to use a 1 click blog or a forum. I have no reason to use any 1 click stuff, I’m just too cool for school and install everything myself.

  63. Miles Says:
    November 20th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    I forgot to mention that I also have “1-Clicked” ZenCart, but have been slow [due to those other priorities I mentioned before] to fully implement it.

    Does the asking of this question mean that there will be a reduction in available 1-Clicks or a total eradication of 1-Clicks?

    Miles.

  64. Sky Says:
    November 21st, 2008 at 5:21 am

    I’ve stopped using One Click due to the use of TypePad for blog hosting, which makes it extremely easy for me, without any headaches of “upgrading”.

  65. Pirahna Says:
    November 21st, 2008 at 9:05 am

    The Wordpress One click installs all the themes, themes i don’t need or use, ever.

    The Wordpress one click would be really really useful for me if it didn’t had all those god damn themes.

  66. Scott Mohnkern Says:
    November 21st, 2008 at 9:11 am

    I use one click installs all the time. Sometimes I need something like a Wiki, or a Wordpress site for just a short period, and having the ability to put one up in a few minutes is really convenient. My favorites are Moodle, Wordpress, and Mediawiki, but I’ve tried them all.

    Every month I always hope to see a new one.

  67. Thomas Says:
    November 21st, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    I’m a blogger and I do not have any tech skills so I’m very happy with the one click installer it is easy and fast —> I do not have the sliced idea of how to install wordpress manually

  68. Hirvine Says:
    November 22nd, 2008 at 4:10 am

    You forgot the reason, these days CMS alike Wordpress (to refer to the first comment) have beautiful install and upgrade wizards themselves.

  69. Thomas Van der Veken Says:
    November 22nd, 2008 at 7:42 am

    I don’t use one-click installs because I have no need for them any more.

    But wouldn’t it be more accurate to count the amount of accounts that use one-click on a per-year basis? e.g. if I installed something using one-click in 2005 and again in 2007 but not in 2006 it will count 2005 and 2007 but not 2006.

    Have you considered the option that users that start using one-click keep on using a lot? I think it would be more interesting what happens to that. Do people that used one-click five years ago still use it?

  70. John Says:
    November 23rd, 2008 at 5:16 am

    Hello,

    Please tell me what software was used to construct that graph.

    Thank you,
    John

  71. JP Says:
    November 23rd, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    I use Wordpress, but since I manually installed it for the first time I don’t have the one click install option anymore unless I wanted to make a fresh install using one click, so that’s why I don’t use it.

  72. Tera Says:
    November 24th, 2008 at 8:56 am

    I used the one-click install for WordPress and for MediaWiki so far… When I’m ready for installing phpBB, I’ll use the one-click for that as well.

    But when I am ready for adding a gallery to my site…

    I can’t.

    And that’s because you don’t support the particular software I’d like to use…

    That being Coppermine…

    I think that is much nicer and easier to use piece of software…

    Tera

  73. Jason Says:
    November 24th, 2008 at 11:19 am

    I run a bunch of sites; I do not use one-click installs (although I use software that is one-click installable) because when it comes down to security, *I* am responsible; I can not be sure that a one click install will be updated in a timely manner; Therefore I must make sure I can update things on my watch, at my pace.

    (I also subscribe to the Secunia RSS feed – an excellent source of bugwatch-esque material, nicely collated. Joomla, Wordpress, CPG, PHPBB, b2evo and addons for all are a portion of the apps I use on my sites)

  74. Chesco Says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 7:54 am

    I think I fit in the first group that you mentioned, given that I installed Joomla myself just to learn how to do it =) And I am a 2008 customer ;)

  75. Peter V Cook Says:
    November 25th, 2008 at 11:11 am

    I don’t use them anymore because of the changes you made to them where apps like WP aren’t as customizable by installing them myself. Oh yeah, and I learned the joys of SVN. Which is easy to update without overwriting my changes.

  76. Gorthan Says:
    November 26th, 2008 at 8:02 am

    I don’t use one-click installs because I want to do the installation procedure by myself.
    I want to run beta versions of wordpress and zenphoto, I want to keep them updated as soon as an update is available, and I want to keep my customizations.

    So, the One Click Install page doesn’t exist anymore for me.

  77. Frank Says:
    November 26th, 2008 at 10:51 am

    I use the One Click install a lot to get my site started. Some site I have to do the upgrades manually because of the customization that I have done to the site.

    Didn’t like the Easy mode… it hid to many features or part of the site I like to update or change if I have problems.

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    November 26th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

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  79. gp Says:
    November 26th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    –
    for me it depends. if it’s a wordpress install, i want to do it myself so i can have total control over the files.

    if it’s wiki or gallery, i have you guys do it. much more convenient and efficient.

    i love the service. thanks for all you do.

  80. Chris Says:
    November 28th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    I tried the One-Click Installs a couple times, but upgrading always broke my sites. I’ll stick with downloading the install and doing everything myself.

  81. nick Says:
    December 1st, 2008 at 1:24 am

    ahhh there’s something fast, nice and simple about static html.

    the one click installs are great but sometimes you just want to do something different.

  82. Flood Says:
    December 6th, 2008 at 9:41 am

    I use it because I don’t have time to make it manually…
    Mainly WordPress and Gallery…
    I think the latest addition like the ads server… is a weird choice…
    Hope you add some more.
    What I like is that I don’t need to read anything, upgrade are easy.
    What I would like is an easy way to backup/recover an auto-install. One of my wordpress is now not anymore in the one-click install database… so no upgrade anymore. It was after one of the hard-drive failure.

    Good job!

  83. Harley Says:
    December 15th, 2008 at 9:42 am

    I’d prefer to have more reliable hosting than one-click installs. I can unzip tar files and setup databases just fine but I can’t spend my days running file and web servers. That’s why I pay you to do that. I wish more effort would be spent ensuring your customers sites are up and running than tinkering with one-click installers.

  84. swaffie Says:
    December 19th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    I used it once or twice then decided manual installs are almost just as easy to keep uptodate without having to wait X amount of days after a security update.

  85. rudyryk Says:
    December 21st, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    I would use one-click-install of Drupal if it available in ‘advanced’ mode.

    It doesn’t, so I’ve installed it by myself :)

  86. Atte Says:
    December 26th, 2008 at 6:35 am

    I personally don’t have any problems setting things up manually, but as I’m plain lazy I’ve installed WordPress as a one-click install.

    If only Zenphoto was supported… The gallery you do provide is too cluttered for my use. Zenphoto is simple yet powerful.

    To sum it up: The one-click installs are nice, but definitely should not be a top priority.

  87. Molly Says:
    January 7th, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Use PHPmotion

  88. Paul Says:
    January 10th, 2009 at 5:20 pm

    I’m a WP developer & plugin developer in my spare time so the main reason for not using one click is that I use the SVN builds of WordPress.

  89. Matt Says:
    January 13th, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    My organization made ample use of one-click installs as a great way to empower our divisions and remove a bottleneck, allowing them to deployed applications on their own. Well, at least until Dreamhost – suddenly and without notice – effectively destroyed one-click installation capability for anyone but the administrative panel account holder. Apparently, it was amateur hour. That sure has been fun to explain to the boss!

  90. Rocco Says:
    January 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    I’m just getting started with drupal and didn’t know if the one-click would have all the plug-ins/themes that I would ultimately be interested in using, so I just did a manual install so that I could be sure I wouldn’t run in to a wall later.

  91. Distribuciones Linus Says:
    January 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Using wp withot any problem.

  92. Distribuciones Linux Says:
    January 28th, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    Using wp withot any problem. Thanks a lot.

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