The Gloves are Off
May 21, 2007 on 3:46 pm | In Business, Funnyish, Insider View, Rants by Josh Jones |
So, a few weeks ago, completely out of the blue, we get a letter from one of our favorite competitors. And it goes a little something like this:
Re: Mr. H – Former Junior Systems Administrator
Breach of Employment Agreement – NON SOLICITATIONDear DreamHost:
Please be advised that this office represents the interests of Add2Net, Inc. d.b.a. Lunarpages (hereinafter “Lunarpages”) in the above referenced matter. Please direct any further communications concerning the issues raised herein to this office from this point forward.
The purpose of this letter is to address certain actions we are aware of and various legal obligations of our client’s former employee Mr. H and Dreamhost as his current employer.
Specifically, we have contacted Mr. H recently to remind him of his ongoing contractual obligations under his Employment Agreement and Conflict of Interest / Code of Ethics agreement with Lunarpages, dated on or about January 31, 2006 (the “Agreements”). Please find a copy of these agreements enclosed herewith for your review and file.
By agreeing to Non-Competition, Trade Secret and Non-Solicitation obligations in his Agreement, Mr. H has covenanted not to engage in or participate, directly or indirectly, in any business that is in competition with Lunarpages. He has futher agreed in no uncertain terms that he “shall not” induce or attempt to induce Lunarpages employees to terminate their employment with Lunarpages or to solicit Lunarpages employees for other employment.
Certain information that has come into our possession causes us to believe that Mr. H has, with the apparent knowledge and approval of Dreamhost, engaged in a campaign to use certain trade secret information including employee listings to solicit Lunarpages employees and induce them to terminate their existing employment with Lunarpages and accept employment with Dreamhost and/or New Dream Network, LLC.
By this letter, we hereby demand that you immediately Cease and Desist from any further activity contrary to the provisions of Mr. H agreement or that wold cause a violation of statute or common law. Furthermore, we ask that you immediately turn over any and all Lunarpages employee records, data and information including Lunarpages telephone and/or address lists. Furthermore, within 5 days of the date of this letter we hereby demand that you provide your written assurance of your intent to honor the terms of the aforementioned documents and instruct your employee accordingly.
Furthermore, in an effort to mitigate the damages that have already been caused by Mr. H-ings on behalf of and/or for the benefit of Dreamhost we demand that within this time frame Mr. H-ings provide a detailed list of each individual Lunarpages employee whom he has contacted or have attempted to contact in violation of the above provisions.
Please be advised that if we do not receive the requested assurances or if the above mentioned contact with our employees should continue we will have no alternative but to take immediate action including procuring injunctive relief to enforce the rights of our client as against Mr. H-ings and Dreamhost / New Dream Network, LLC. Please be advised that the relevant agreements also provide that we may recover our attorney’s fees and costs necessary to enforce the terms of the agreement.
We look forward to your cooperation in this regard.
Very Truly Yours
Professional Lunarpages Lawyer Guy
None of us had any idea what they were talking about. I mean, we knew that “Mr H.” (as we have been calling and shall continue to call him in this post) used to work at Lunarpages, but we also have employees who used to work at Powweb, IPowerWeb, Interland, Affinity, and just about every other web host in LA!
He’d never told us a thing about Lunarpages, in fact I even specifically remember him once saying to me something to the effect that he “wouldn’t feel it appropriate to discuss details of his previous employer with a competitor.”
Even when I turned The Machine all the way up to 50 he still wouldn’t talk!
Whatta guy!
Anyway, we weren’t entirely intimidated by this letter. Here’s what our lawyer sent back:
Re: Mr. H., Add2Net, Inc dba Lunarpages, New Dream Network LLC
Dispute re activities of Mr. H.Dear Professional Lunarpages Lawyer Guy:
I represent New Dream Network, LLC (“NDN”). This is in response to your letter to NDN, which my client has passed to me for handling. Please address all future communications to me.
Initially, it is not clear from your letter whether we are discussing a “Mr. H.” or a “Mr. H.-ings.” You have used both spellings repeatedly in your letter.
Additionally, it is unclear to me what you are requesting. Your demand that NDN “immediately Cease and Desist from any further activity contrary to the provisions of Mr. H’s agreement or that would cause a violation of statute or common law” is too vague to convey any idea what you are requesting. Are you demanding that NDN fire Mr. H? If so, please state so clearly. Exactly what do you believe NDN has done that is in violation of what particular law? State specifically what evidence or information you are relying upon.
Furthermore, I do hope you understand and appreciate that the non-compete clause in Mr. H’s employment agreement is hopelessly unenforceable in California, at least to the extent that it purports to restrict Mr. H’s ability to pursue his chosen career with competitors of Lunarpages after his employment there has ended, except to the extent necessary to protect legitimate trade secrets. See California Business & Professions Code §16600 et seq. and the numerous cases applying that statute.
With respect to any non-solicitation clause, at least one court has held that such clauses are unenforceable under §16600. See Liberty Mutual Ins. Co. v. Gallagher & Co., No C94-3384 MHP, 1994 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 18412 (N.D. Cal. Dec. 19, 1994) (unpublished). In any event, applying basic First Amendment principles, no court would enjoin Mr. H from, for example, telling a few of his friends who continue to work at Lunarpages that he is happier at NDN and that NDN is a better place to work than Lunarpages and that they may wish to consider applying for employment at NDN, regardless of what his previous employment agreement with
Lunarpages provided. If you are claiming that such isolated conversations would violate some provision of law in California, or that the employment agreement at issue validly prohibits such isolated conversations, please state so clearly so that we will all be on the same page, and provide any authority you have to support your position.With respect to any alleged trade secrets, please specify what specific information you believe is at issue here that qualifies for trade secret protection under Cal. Civil Code §3426.1 which is the applicable law, and state the measures which your client took to maintain the confidentiality of that information per §3426.1(d)(2). As you probably know, merely reciting within an employment agreement that something is a trade secret hardly makes it so. See Thompson v. Impaxx, Inc., 113 Cal. App. 4th 1425, 1430, — Cal. Rptr. 3d — (2003) (“The recitals alone do not establish anything. Labeling information as a trade secret or as confidential information does not conclusively establish that the information fits this description.”) Once you have identified with particularity the supposed trade secrets at issue, then we can have an informed discussion regarding whether that information qualifies as protectable trade secrets under §3426.1, and whether Mr. H has attempted to give any such information to NDN.
In any event, NDN has not received any list of Lunarpages’ employees. If Mr. H has told one or more friends who continue to work at Lunarpages that NDN is a better place to work, he has done so without any encouragement or participation from NDN.
The portion of your letter that concerns me the most is the portion in which you state, “We have contacted Mr. H recently to remind him of his ongoing contractual obligations under his Employment Agreement . . . ” Because you seem to be laboring under the false belief that a non-compete agreement with an employee is enforceable in California, and you seem to have taken that position in your letter, I presume that you have attempted to persuade Mr. H into believing that working for NDN constitutes a violation of an enforceable non-compete clause. If that is correct, then Lunarpages has, through you its counsel, attempted to intimidate NDN’s lawful employee Mr. H, and have wrongfully interfered with NDN’s relationship with its employee, and have thereby engaged in unfair competition under Business & Professions Code §17200 et seq. Please provide Lunarpages’ assurances that it will cease and desist its attempts to intimidate and to interfere with NDN’s employees in the future, and that it will send a letter to Mr. H advising him that under California Business & Professions Code §16600, non-compete agreements that purport to restrict post-employment competition are invalid. Such a letter will be necessary to undo the damage that apparently has already been done by Lunarpages’ deceitful and wrongful conduct. Please send the required corrective letter to Mr. H, and provide those assurances to me, by May 7 at the latest.
I look forward to receiving your clarifications and your assurances. In the meantime, please call me if you have any questions.
Very truly yours,
Awesome DreamHost Lawyer Guy
And I must say, I think Awesome DreamHost Lawyer Guy makes some good points!
- In California at least, non-compete and non-solicit agreements, especially for regular employees, are pretty much unenforcable.
- If you want to keep your employees from leaving to your competitors, do it the American way, not the Communist way! I.E., by competing for their “business” by creating a nice place to work; not by being lazy and attempting to make it “illegal” for them to work elsewhere!
- When writing letters to your lawyer friends, be sure to get details like the name of the person in question right.. or else your lawyer friends will tease you!
Anyway, we never heard back from them. I guess that means they consider the issue dropped.
Well, we don’t!
Our honor has been impugned! How dare they imply that we try and steal their employees! P-shaw, as if! Our employees are already the best and we get em the old fashion way, by hiring friends and family members!
You guys pushed this thing too far. The only way to settle it now is in court!
The basketball court, that is!
That’s right, to settle this thing once and for all we hereby do officially challenge Lunarpages to a basketball game! You pick the time, we’ll pick the place. And the place is here.
And the time is “sometime before June 15th…” or we will declare DreamHost the winner!
AND, winner take all. Or rather, winner gets to offer jobs to anybody they want on the losers.
We’re not afraid. Because we know they wouldn’t accept!
And we also know we’re going to win!
Perhaps you haven’t heard of a little something we call The Dream Machine?
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May 21st, 2007 at 5:06 pm
The sad thing is is that this post probably generated some “curiosity traffic” for their site.
I know I WTF-ed when I heard of the name and googled it.
(Google: Don’t try to enforce trademark laws on _me!_)
May 21st, 2007 at 5:31 pm
Wow… that was awesome. Makes me excited that I will someday soon be able to be like “Awesome DreamHost Lawyer Guy”–his response letter was great! :) Good work!
May 21st, 2007 at 5:50 pm
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/index.php
May 21st, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Ha ha! “My ‘Awesome DreamHost Lawyer Guy’ pwnt your ‘Professional Lunarpages Lawyer Guy’ ”
This type of corporate candor is as refreshing as it is rare. Rock ON, DreamHost!
May 21st, 2007 at 6:11 pm
That is a kick-ass response.
May 21st, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Lunarpages can’t play you guys in basketball.
Even if they were brave enough to show up, all of their employees would want to play on your team. :P
May 21st, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Hooray! See, now good lawyerin’ is a MUCH better thing to be spending our hosting fees on than silly old carbon credits! :)
http://www.carboncreditkillers.com/
May 21st, 2007 at 7:17 pm
“Such a letter will be necessary to undo the damage that apparently has already been done by Lunarpages’ deceitful and wrongful conduct. Please send the required corrective letter to Mr. H, and provide those assurances to me, by May 7 at the latest.”
Golden.
May 21st, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Ah, just buy ‘em out and be done with it. Buy ‘em out and fire their lawyer guy.
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:13 am
It seems someone is really trying to get into Dreamhost’s pants…
Naughty Lunarpages.
*tuts*
May 22nd, 2007 at 1:31 am
The Dream Machine will show them who’s boss…
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:03 am
complete set of b*stards
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:28 am
And this is exactly why I’m moving my personal webhost from LP to DH and have already setup business accounts with DH. Thanks for posting this guys, I got a big laugh out of it.
May 22nd, 2007 at 7:30 am
haha I love dreamhost, I love the way you are taking the piss out of everyone. The dream machine will beat you at any game, I am sure lunarpoo!
May 22nd, 2007 at 10:21 am
That’s badass. ;) And extra points for you guys retaining Phoenix Wright in this case. You can’t lose!
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:49 pm
CATS: All your employee are belong to us
May 22nd, 2007 at 1:33 pm
It’s good to see lawyers finally getting a strong role model like Phoenix Wright. Harvey Birdman, though funny, just wasn’t cutting it.
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:25 pm
Anyone notice Lunarpages shiny blue site? I actually checked Lunarpages before I joined Dreamhost (almost a year ago). Their prices were almost twice what Dreamhost offered and they offered less features! Not to mention their page design sucked. I just checked their page now, and their “offerings” have suddenly changed to better match what Dreamhost offered to begin with. Dreamhost, thanks for setting the bar and throwing the competition into it! haha!
May 23rd, 2007 at 6:40 am
Maybe you should run a post on how to be a terror supporing webhost.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/187895.php
Your initial response was quick but empty, no results.
May 23rd, 2007 at 8:12 am
That’s called freedom of speech, shit-head.
If you don’t like it, the US is not the place for you.
May 23rd, 2007 at 8:52 am
Freedom of speech is not freedom to break the law, shit head.
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:27 am
Howie - lay off Mikey - he’s just sad his butt buddy Saddam isn’t around.
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:38 am
Well you cant’ delete me from my own blog. Pussy….
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:50 am
Why is DreamHost knowingly hosting “Voice of Jihad,” an AL-QAEDA website?
Ask your lawyer what happens when you knowingly provide support to a designated terrorist group.
Here’s a clue, the 1st Amendment offers no protection. Have him read Gillars v. United States, 182 F.2d 962 (D.C. Cir. 1950). Then crap your pants.
May 23rd, 2007 at 10:08 am
Really bad karma in taking money from terrorists, Josh. You’d better nip this in the bud and delete “Voice of Jihad.” I expect you don’t care about the moral ramifications of supporting our enemies, the brave jihadi babyhunters, so consider the business ones.
May 23rd, 2007 at 10:52 am
If every site was taken down that someone else didn’t like, there would be no more web sites. You sissies need to get a life and spend less time googling for terrorist sites.
Want to fight terrorists? Quit being pussies and go join the service. Whining in blog comments isn’t going to achieve world peace.
If you really believe they’re doing something illegal, report it to abuse (the right way) instead of crying here like little girls (the sissy way). What part of that is so difficult that it makes you little brains hurt?
Wow, some idiot said something stupid–big surprise.
Real close on that guess. I’m pro-Bush and pro-bomb-the-hell out of any country that sides with terror. BUT, freedom of speech is part of America and Dreamhost has made it clear they respect it.
Got a problem with that? Too bad. Go start your own hosting company, hand pick the sites you want to host, and let us know once you’ve blown past Dreamhost. I’m sure you’ll be a huge success.
And they aren’t supporting enemies, geniuses. They are supporting themselves. They’re a web hosting company, not politicians.
May 23rd, 2007 at 10:53 am
Yeah, spamming counts as fighting terrorism almost as much as crying does.
May 23rd, 2007 at 10:58 am
@wooga - If you believe there is a crime being committed we encourage you to contact the FBI. Just because you do not understand how the system works, it does not mean that it is not working.
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 am
Michael, I know how the system works. I’m using it. Namely, I’m providing yet more notice to this site of the subject site. Notice is an element of the underlying crime. Once DreamHost has been fully apprised of the subject site and has had an opportunity to cease assisting Al Qaeda - but refuses to stop such assistance - DreamHost becomes a ‘knowing’ actor.
Notice and knowledge are what is required to trigger the federal statute. And the 1st Amendment is not applicable for ‘hosting an Al Qaeda web site.’ The law is quite obvious on that point.
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 am
What a doofus, the guy who was upset about hosting a muslim website. Of course we should host it, then we can see what they are doing, have full access and take them all down all at once karate snowman style. DUH!
CIA RULZ
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 am
We have reported it to abuse. Numerous times. Oh and we also did report to OFAC and FBI. So since dreamhost will be more than glad to speak with them, everyone is happy.
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 am
Its not a Muslim site either. It is a terrorist website owned by al-Qaeda. unless you think all Muslims are terrorists. I don’t.
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:36 am
Note: I am involved in dealing with abuse of DreamHost Web Hosting resources, legal matters, etc.
We are unable to comment on specific cases involving possible illegal activity on our servers. We realize that the absence of information tends to result in people making assumptions and inflammatory comments, but that comes with the territory.
That said, we want to make something clear: If someone feels that a DreamHost customer is engaging in illegal activity, we _do_ want to be told about it. That does not mean that we will immediately disable a given site. There are a number of very legitimate reasons why this is the case, and I can assure you “supporting terrorism” (or child porn, or ponzi schemes, whatever) isn’t one of them.
Anyhow, at this point we know about this particular site and angry/demanding emails aren’t going to be of much practical use. At this point, if people believe that we are in the wrong, we encourage them to contact law enforcement directly.
In fact, I’ll make it a bit easier and dig up some contact information:
Los Angeles branch of the FBI (these are the guys we work with most often):
http://losangeles.fbi.gov/
Los Angeles Field Office
11000 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 1700
Los Angeles, CA 90024
(310) 477-6565
TITAN (The Intelligence & Terrorism Alert Network), an information-sharing initiative of southern California law enforcement agencies:
http://www.catitan.org/
The Internet Crime Complaint Center. The government’s clearing-house for reports of illegal activities. Such reports will, more often than not, end up in the hands of the FBI:
http://www.ic3.gov/
While this isn’t what is being discussed in this instance, NCMEC (The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children) is the best place to report child pornography - after letting us know, of course:
http://www.missingkids.com/
Finally, our own Abuse Center goes into some detail on how we handle various abuse-related matters:
http://abuse.dreamhost.com/
We don’t have a generalized “illegal activities” section, but much of what we write about how we respond to child porn complaints applies here as well:
http://abuse.dreamhost.com/childporn/
I hope this is of some use.
- Jeff @ DreamHost Abuse
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:39 am
Other hosts seem to have no problem pulling them without jepardizing an investigation. Ya’ll keep logs don’t you?
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 am
What does what other hosts do have to do with Dreamhost?
Did it ever dawn on you that in some cases, LE could be monitoring a site, which it can’t do if it’s taken down?
Wait, let me guess–you think if that’s the case, DH should publicly announce it. Right? Or did you just think that cooperating with whiners would be more important than cooperating with LE?
It’s sad that some people are stupid enough to think a website makes DH terror supporters.
But don’t let reality keep you from whining in blog comments. You guys are true American heroes. Luckily, our servicemen that are out there actually fighting, never have to deal with the hardships of crying over a website.
You guys should form your own special ops unit that points at websites and cries. I’m not sure the Marines could handle that kind of combat.
My vote goes for deleting everything here that isn’t about basketball or Lunarpages being braindead.
May 23rd, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Mike, we know which sites are being used for monitoring purposes, and we don’t attack those sites. This isn’t one of them.
May 23rd, 2007 at 12:04 pm
That was an awesome response Dreamhost.
May 23rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
Redjack -
> Mike, we know which sites are being used for monitoring
> purposes, and we don’t attack those sites.
Um, no. No, you don’t.
Have you ever received a Federal subpoena? How about a National Security Letter?
I have. I receive them regularly. We host a lot of sites, and from time to time a bad apple pops up.
The FBI does not make it regular practice to notify Joe Random Weblogger about their investigations. Depending on the nature of the case, I’ve even been asked to limit the number of people within the company who know about the matter to a bare minimum.
…
Mike -
Unfortunately, both we and the FBI have seen contingents of Angry Webloggers™ derail ongoing investigations in the past. It’s often a matter of Too-Little-Information and Too-Much-Fervor.
It’s fine to be passionate about something, but it’s another matter entirely to disengage common sense.
Again, people - if you think we’re running terrorist training drills (or whatever) here in sunny SoCal, by all means please contact law enforcement. If you think we’ve stayed in business for ~10 years by blatantly violating US Federal laws and then repeatedly giving those who would turn us in the contact information if those who can put us in jail, then seize the opportunity and act on it.
- Jeff @ DreamHost Web Hosting
May 23rd, 2007 at 12:31 pm
I checked to see if the site was monitored first before I posted. Yes I have zionist internet spy contacts. It wasn’t t’all are full of shit.
May 23rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Jeff,
I would be interested in speaking with you directly. The comment section of this blog is inappropriate for what I’d like to discuss.
My contact email address is in the admin view for the comments, feel free to use it.
Thanks
May 23rd, 2007 at 1:04 pm
> Yes I have zionist internet spy contacts.
Um. Okay.
- Jeff @ DreamHost Web Hosting
May 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Well I don’t know about the rest of you Internet conspiracy BASKETcases but I’m still waiting to see what LunarPages has to say about a certain BALL game.
So far we haven’t heard a peep! Come on, LP! A yes or no is all we’re lookin’ for!
May 23rd, 2007 at 2:03 pm
I don’t know…from what I’ve seen…I think Josh is lying…but thats just me.
I may be one of those conspiracy basket cases, but when in doubt, err on the side of caution.
May 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pm
I have my doubts but I’m going to err on the side of caution on this one. You are an internet conspiracy basket case.
May 23rd, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Howie is short on clues. You have no idea of what sites are being monitored or not, nor do you have a connection anywhere that could tell you one way or the other.
If you did, you’d have your CIA buddies swoop in and end terrorism by taking action against this one evil site you seem to think is overlooked.
Wait, let me guess. The Feds told you this site was too big for them, so they sent you out to cry about terrorism in blog posts about basketball? How could I have missed that!
No wonder Bin Laden hides in caves. He can’t take all of the internet whining, so he buries himself in the rock where there aren’t any internet connections.
Hold on. Update: My super-secret spy friend in the FBI just told me that Howie is really just one of the spineless Lunarpages employees that doesn’t want to get spanked on the court. This is all just a distraction.
May 23rd, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Howie…now you’ve gone and done it….
“Yes I have zionist internet spy contacts.”
…you are now in a world of shit! ;-)
May 24th, 2007 at 4:28 am
Love it. Rock on. (get that DNS thing fixed!) :)
May 24th, 2007 at 7:34 am
What a soap opera… things jumped from a non disclosure agreement contract, legal or not, for terrorist discussion.
I hope you 2 companies reach an agreement soon, because these problems aren’t worth it.
May 24th, 2007 at 8:10 am
Muahahahahahahah…..Zionist internet spys are everywhere. Look out behind you there’s one now!
May 25th, 2007 at 11:58 am
Haha!
You could own Lunarpages in Basketball anyday.
May 26th, 2007 at 10:01 am
U.S. Based Terrorist Website Host ‘Dreamworks’ Knowingly Providing Services To Terrorist Organization…
Dreamhost, purported by Jawa Report to be owned by America hating terrorist supporting leftist Josh Jones, is continuing to host the al-Qaeda affiliated website - Voice of Jihad, even though Dreamhost and Josh Jones (his blog is here…) now have full …
May 26th, 2007 at 10:18 am
U.S. Based Terrorist Website Host ‘Dreamworks’ Knowingly Providing Services To Terrorist Organization…
Dreamhost, purported by Jawa Report to be owned by America hating terrorist supporting leftist Josh Jones, is continuing to host the al-Qaeda affiliated website - Voice of Jihad, even though Dreamhost and Josh Jones (his blog is here…) now have full …
May 26th, 2007 at 4:26 pm
You pieces of shit are far more annoying than any terrorist group.
May 26th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
Speaking of illegal activities, how are those two blogs not an example of libel? It’s funny when criminals accuse people of being criminals. That’s like OJ calling someone a murderer.
Those dishonest pussies are just as much of a disgrace as the terrorist groups they whine about.
May 26th, 2007 at 11:36 pm
meh…terrorists or fascists…what a choice! Actually, I think I’d rather deal with the terrorists! O_O You “shut ‘em down now!” idiots are more* dangerous to freedom than any “terrorist website”. F*ck Off!
–rlparker
May 27th, 2007 at 8:36 am
If those little pussies cared half as much about terrorists as they claim, they’d be running towards them with rifles as soldiers–not spamming for them from keyboards.
May 27th, 2007 at 11:55 am
Mike you speak wise words, it is a wonder why some people don’t realize what you speak of.
Intelligence can be gathered from a website that is online, If you force them to move, you create more headaches for the people trying to track them. God knows how many geocities sites these terrorists have… If DH can monitor then, along with the feds, why not?
May 27th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
But it makes a person wonder (a person meaning a non-DH-fanboy), if you weren’t up to no good (in regards to the Lunarpages legal letter, not terror websites), why bother posting this incident on your blog with a link from your main company webpage? Thou protests to much? And we’re supposed to believe your side because you say it ain’t so?
Take the high road gentleman and keep this out of the spotlight.
May 27th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
The link is there because the site pulls recent blog posts–just like it does for the forum and the status site.
It’s a big shocker that someone needing a fanboy disclaimer would have a bigger problem with the public humiliation of a company pulling that trash, than the company pulling it.
I guess that makes you a Lunarpages fanboy?
May 27th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
This is totally amazing seems that Dreamhost has some pretty good lawyers that know the law and the books and do their wording very well.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:03 am
Man, I love my Web hosts. You guys have an excellent sense of humor.
May 29th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
In the immortal words of Woody Guthrie
All You Fascists
I’m gonna tell you fascists
You may be surprised
The people in this world
Are getting organized
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose
Race hatred cannot stop us
This one thing we know
Your poll tax and Jim Crow
And greed has got to go
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose.
All of you fascists bound to lose:
I said, all of you fascists bound to lose:
Yes sir, all of you fascists bound to lose:
You’re bound to lose! You fascists:
Bound to lose!
People of every color
Marching side to side
Marching ‘cross these fields
Where a million fascists dies
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose!
I’m going into this battle
And take my union gun
We’ll end this world of slavery
Before this battle’s won
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose!
May 29th, 2007 at 7:14 pm
lol Dreamhost quite funny!
Now Terrorism and American Politics bore me, in the end we all die anyways so lets just delete all these mean comments and be friends :)
May 29th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
the numbers on this blog are chopped in half.
that makes me sad in the pants.
i cried.
true story.
May 30th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Josh, get Awesome Lawyer Guy to do the newsletter next time.
June 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 pm
lol, i had a good laugh from this. so did their lawyer send another letter back ? keep us updated!
June 4th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
This blog is fantastic. Without knowing the ins and outs, this openess…its brilliant.
June 4th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
I also heard about the cook that quit ‘McD*nalds’ to work for ‘B*rger king’.
Pure shame…I thought lame asshat situations like this were kept to EA-g*mes and M$
June 10th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
[...] The people at Dreamhost are completely insane. I’m normal in comparison! Dreamhost customers are so used to this as to be immune, based on [...]
July 3rd, 2007 at 6:35 am
DreamHost wins by default! I knew LP didn’t have the balls to accept the challenge. They didn’t even mention it on THEIR blog. Or anywhere! Did they email you, Josh?
August 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 pm
[...] the bright side, every person we met was very nice… plus I got to taunt lunarpages, as well as eat lunch with the just-a-little-bit-less-cool-than-us Media Temple entourage. I also [...]
August 4th, 2007 at 10:52 am
I love your guys’ style! As a result I’m going to sign up for a Dreamhost account.
May 14th, 2008 at 3:12 am
Soma to florida….
Soma online sales. Buy soma online. Soma. Soma fm….