Comments on: Buy or Build? http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/ Tales From the Inside! Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:18:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: DreamHost Blog » Build or Buy? http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-83682 DreamHost Blog » Build or Buy? Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:47:01 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-83682 [...] some of you already surmised from this old post, what I was really talking about here is pretty [...] [...] some of you already surmised from this old post, what I was really talking about here is pretty [...]

]]> By: Brandon http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-71381 Brandon Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:01:10 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-71381 Interesting and practical application of economics. DreamHost Economics 101. Interesting and practical application of economics. DreamHost Economics 101.

]]> By: Dallas http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-71249 Dallas Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:13:31 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-71249 Few companies of any size actually OWN data centers, let alone entire buildings. It just doesn't make much sense for all but the largest of companies. The building our data center is in is home to several data centers, some housing only a single organization's equipment, and others housing equipment for several organizations. Some of the largest websites out there are housed in this building, or have been in the past, and that recent planned power outage (we agree that's essentially an oxymoron when it comes to data centers!) took all of it down. The building is a premier data center class structure and is generally sound in that regard. Something somewhere does seem to have gone awry with the management of the building at some point in time, however. They are not living up to their end of the deal. Some of the other data centers in the building are run by other web hosts, and they also went down along with us. Running your own data center is no guarantee that outside forces won't come into play. This is not an attempt to push off blame, in any way. The fault for any problem with a service we provide is entirely on our shoulders. All that aside, nothing I saw in this blog post said anything about our future plans. It only discussed the economic basis for the decisions we have made up to this point. As our own situation changes, the economics also change. Few companies of any size actually OWN data centers, let alone entire buildings. It just doesn’t make much sense for all but the largest of companies. The building our data center is in is home to several data centers, some housing only a single organization’s equipment, and others housing equipment for several organizations. Some of the largest websites out there are housed in this building, or have been in the past, and that recent planned power outage (we agree that’s essentially an oxymoron when it comes to data centers!) took all of it down.

The building is a premier data center class structure and is generally sound in that regard. Something somewhere does seem to have gone awry with the management of the building at some point in time, however. They are not living up to their end of the deal. Some of the other data centers in the building are run by other web hosts, and they also went down along with us. Running your own data center is no guarantee that outside forces won’t come into play. This is not an attempt to push off blame, in any way. The fault for any problem with a service we provide is entirely on our shoulders.

All that aside, nothing I saw in this blog post said anything about our future plans. It only discussed the economic basis for the decisions we have made up to this point. As our own situation changes, the economics also change.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-71172 Mike Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:48:30 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-71172 Except that some of the biggest problems they've had have been blamed on the data center and were out of their control. Also, you deduct their current costs from the huge cost you mention, as it's not exactly free to be where they are now. It could also be looked at as a real estate investment. They could also make money back if they offered colo, just like their current data center is making money from them. Except that some of the biggest problems they’ve had have been blamed on the data center and were out of their control.

Also, you deduct their current costs from the huge cost you mention, as it’s not exactly free to be where they are now.

It could also be looked at as a real estate investment.

They could also make money back if they offered colo, just like their current data center is making money from them.

]]> By: John Knowles http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-71096 John Knowles Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:40:34 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-71096 Again Josh your logic is flawless. The only bad thing I have to say about dreamhost is they have a hell of a lot of customers who are completely clueless about business or hosting. having a data center would be pointless and cost DH more than what it would ever be worth. lets break it down: data center construction -> huge cost more staff to manage and keep it running -> increase in cost power, air conditioning, UPS systems, Connection to back bone -> huge monthly outgo increase in customer base from having their own data center -> virtually nothing Again Josh your logic is flawless.

The only bad thing I have to say about dreamhost is they have a hell of a lot of customers who are completely clueless about business or hosting.

having a data center would be pointless and cost DH more than what it would ever be worth. lets break it down:

data center construction -> huge cost
more staff to manage and keep it running -> increase in cost
power, air conditioning, UPS systems, Connection to back bone -> huge monthly outgo

increase in customer base from having their own data center -> virtually nothing

]]> By: DC http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-71071 DC Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:11:06 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-71071 sonogram = classic sonogram = classic

]]> By: Kevin http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-71057 Kevin Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:46:34 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-71057 Boring. Boring.

]]> By: 时尚广场 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-71031 时尚广场 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:32:37 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-71031 非常得不错! 非常得不错!

]]> By: David http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-71016 David Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:45:07 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-71016 Sorry Josh, you over did the waffling this time, I lost track half way through this post and found something else to do. Sorry Josh, you over did the waffling this time, I lost track half way through this post and found something else to do.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/comment-page-1/#comment-70926 Mike Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:19:51 +0000 http://blog.dreamhost.com/2007/03/14/buy-or-build/#comment-70926 I thought this was going to be a "We're building (or buying) our OWN data center!" post. Or are you going to go ahead and build the plane, then if that turns out okay, try building a data center? Good plan! You could just build the plane, then sell it and use the profit to buy a data center. That's like getting a free data center! I thought this was going to be a “We’re building (or buying) our OWN data center!” post.

Or are you going to go ahead and build the plane, then if that turns out okay, try building a data center? Good plan!

You could just build the plane, then sell it and use the profit to buy a data center. That’s like getting a free data center!

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