iTunes Music Sore
October 3, 2006 on 10:25 am | In New Features by Josh Jones |
I love my iPod shuffle.
I never had a USB stick before, and it makes a pretty sick one.
I love iTunes.
If you ask me, it’s the real reason iPods are as popular as they are. I’ve tried a bunch of jukebox software in my lives, and they universally blow elephants. Except iTunes. iTunes is really pretty good. It’s easy to browse, easy to search, easy to rip, easy to burn, easy to use, stable, and free. It’s perfect. Oh, but wait..
Just one more thing.
The iTunes Music Store SUCKS!
Can I get a “heck yeah?”
HECK YEAH!
I know Defective By Design agree with me! And you know why they think it sucks? Three little words:
I Love You.
Ha. Gotcha. No, the words are really:
D. R. M.
That’s Digital Rights Management, sucka.. and it’s what keeps you from playing songs you BUY at iTMS from playing on your Xbox, Sonos, Zune, Windows Media Center PC, and if you get confused, maybe even YOUR OWN COMPUTER!
It’s what stops you from sharing your purchases with your friends, but it’s also what allowed Apple to convince the record labels to even allow them to give this whole “Internet” thing a go.
Because we’re all pirates at heart.
I mean, why pay for something if you can get it for free right? And why pay for something if you can get something better for free?
Well, the music industry is hoping you’ll pay for something worse than what you can get for free because they’re going to make it hard to get it for free. They’re competing by decreasing the value of their competition’s (file sharing services) product, rather than by increasing the value of theirs.
Like, why can’t you re-download songs you buy from iTMS? I don’t want to ever be forced to re-purchase a song (or a thousand) just because a hard drive died and I wasn’t keeping good backups. And trust me, the bandwidth costs of allowing this would be infinitesimal.
I really don’t know why they don’t allow this. I can only think because it’s something that would actually be valuable? And a way to compete with the free file-sharing networks on merit rather than by litigation?
It’s so frustrating.
Which is why, today, October 3rd, 2006, The Day Against DRM, we’re announcing a new (beta!) product:
What is it?
It’s a new service (during the beta only open to DreamHost Customers) that allows you to sell your own digital files, a la iTMS.. but with a few key differences:
No DRM is allowed.. period! Once you upload your file to sell, you pay a tiny one-time storage fee, and we serve it FOREVER at a nice, permanent, URL. Anybody who buys a file somebody offers via Files Forever get an online backup of it included.. that is, they may re-download the file as many times as they want, FOREVER! Any file you buy from Files Forever you can also “loan” to your friends via the service! They are then allowed to download the file as much as they want until you ask for it “back.” (This is awesome, trust me.) We handle all the payment processing / shopping cart stuff, and take just 5% + 50c for credit card fees. (We combine purchases to minimize these costs too.) You can even offer an “affiliate cut” for people who re-sell your files!
That’s it pretty much!
You can also keep the files you upload private.. so Files Forever also doubles as a very cost-effective permanent online archive solution, as well as an easy way to email big files to your friends.
So, Happy DreamHost Customers, please try it out today.. and when this thing takes off, maybe the big content owners will start to catch on and DRM will some day be sent back to the hell-hole from which it spawned. (Hell’s hell-hole I assume?)
And if you find any bugs or have any suggestions, of course I don’t want to hear about it.
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October 3rd, 2006 at 10:41 am
You should check out Anapod, it’s pretty awesome
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:18 am
I’ve only used iTunes music store a couple of times (I prefer physical CDs), but I found that the DRM was ridiculously easy to get around. For one thing, just burn to a re-writable CD and rip it back to a lossless format. Minor pain, but whatever.
As for re-downloading songs, maybe that would be a nice value-add to their service, but they are under no obligation to provide it (so long as your initial download completed properly). Think about it this way: if you lose/break/scratch a CD you bought at the store, does the record company send you a free replacement? No. Do they even send you one for the cost of duplication and shipping only? No. You bought that physical CD and if you didn’t back up the information on it, you’ll have to buy it again.
Same with the purchased download. You bought that one copy of the song, with all its inherent limitations, and you are responsible for backing it up however you see fit. If you lose it, that’s just the same as if you lost a physical CD. The fact that it costs less to re-transmit data over the internet than to produce and ship a physical CD does not alter the fundamental fact that you already got what you paid for in the original transaction.
Anyway, all DRM sucks, but life is about compromise, and the small amount of iTunes DRM is one compromise I’m willing to live with. If only their files were full CD quality…
Kudos on the Files Forever thing though, hopefully it takes off.
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:21 am
That’s an amazing service! If only people didn’t complain about uptimes and focused most of the time on the better sides…
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:36 am
The “better sides” are pointless with crappy uptime.
Hopefully the problems are nearing resolution. :| I’d rather have my sites and mail be reliable than have more bells and whistles.
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:39 am
Well, for me $3 a gig is a bit high
I’ll better buy “code monster” plan instead ;-)
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:57 am
Where’s the new newsletter? :)
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:13 pm
I was planning to offer music downloads at WorldBeatPlanet using Drupal’s eCommerce module. How would this integrate with an existing site?
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:35 pm
Simple.. once you’ve uploaded your files, you’ll be given a permanent URL to each one that looks like:
https://files.dreamhost.com/1241/filename.mp3
You just link to that url and a page is brought up with a description and the ability to add the file to their cart so they can download it.
You can also link right to the add to cart for a file at:
https://files.dreamhost.com/1241/filename.mp3?com=addcart
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:47 pm
[...] The Webhosting company Dreamhost, announced today their new service titled Files Forever. From the Dreamhost blog: It’s a new service (during the beta only open to DreamHost Customers) that allows you to sell your own digital files, a la iTMS.. but with a few key differences: [...]
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:48 pm
Heck Yeah!
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:35 pm
Way to go Dreamhost!
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:45 pm
Sounds pretty cool.
@Mike
“I’ve only used iTunes music store a couple of times (I prefer physical CDs), but I found that the DRM was ridiculously easy to get around. For one thing, just burn to a re-writable CD and rip it back to a lossless format. Minor pain, but whatever.”
Sure that gets around the DRM but I don’t know how you think burning a lossy format to a CD and then ripping it into lossless is gonna fill in the lost content.
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:52 pm
hey! theres a sexy new front page on dreamhost.com to go along with it!
….ok, maybe fat kids on a couch aren’t “sexy” but it’s still new!
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:53 pm
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October 3rd, 2006 at 1:57 pm
Hmm, so I am wondering how this will work. Here’s an example. Let’s say someone buys a CD from BestBuy, rips it into MP3 format and then seeks to re-sell those MP3s via this new service. Reading your description above, there would not appear to be any prevention from doing so on this new Files Forever service.
Soooo…. how in the world will you avoid getting slapped with a lawsuit from the RIAA? Maybe I am missing something about the model? Wouldn’t royalties need to be accounted for?
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Check out Songbird - it’s a Free/Open Source music player that’s an iTunes clone only without the Music Store. Its written by the guys who made winamp before AOL bought it out, so it’s worth checking out.
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:10 pm
Can we see a screenshot of what page you’d see when you click on one of these files?
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:15 pm
When the RIAA has a total crapfit about this, will our service suffer because of all the legal fees? I worry.
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:18 pm
Our Terms of Service will still apply to Files Forever files, as will the procedure for removing copyrighted content. If it’s obvious infringement and we’re notified about it or come across it, we’ll take it down. If it’s less obvious, the copyright owner can send us a DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) notice requesting removal of the material.
Typically the RIAA, IFPI and other recording industry legal groups will send a DMCA upon first contact, which makes removal of the material a breeze.
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:29 pm
I like this idea, and not just because I’m already a Dreamhost customer. However, there are a number of details I can’t seem to find. What payment options do buyers have? Can we do any theme stuff with the page? Are there protocol options for downloading (FTP, SCP, BitTorrent, etc.)? Is the download page secure?
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:38 pm
> iTunes is really pretty good.
Are you tripping?!?!
I’m running the latest update (7.0.1 i think), and it’s a bag of hammers! iTunes 6 was very good.
iTunes 7 is a disgrace!
On the upside, i’ve just discovered Amarok. That is awesome, it does this automatic lookup of lyrics and band info, its really wicked. It’s also much better at getting album art than iTunes 7.
I’m really disappointed with iTunes, i wont be back unless Apple makes major changes.
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:44 pm
Customers can pay with a credit card (visa, mastercard, amex, discover).. the files and check out process are all secure at https://files.dreamhost.com/
The download is via http.. the link requires they have a cookie authenticating them as someone able to download that file though.
(And yeah, I guess I meant iTunes 6.. I haven’t updated yet!)
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:28 pm
Just to be clear, is this FOREVER as in “as long as you remain a Dreamhost customer” or FOREVER as in “as long as there’s a Dreamhost, your files will still be there”? Will your file servers be backed up regularly to protect against disaster?
About payments: how will they be disbursed? Will it be the same as with your rewards system with the choice of either Paypal or crediting one’s Dreamhost account?
About affiliates: are these people who have been specifically approved by the owner of the file or can anyone who knows or finds out your file link set themselves up as an affiliate?
“That’s it pretty much!”
Are your sure? ^_^
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:32 pm
Also, I realize this is a beta, but since one can’t actually create a new user account at files.dreamhost.com (404 error after clicking “Log in”), how are we supposed to be able to check out the payment process and such? Beta usually implies some degree of access so that the system can be tested out…
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:42 pm
Thanks for upping my diskspace and transfer dreamhost, you are the best!!!
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:49 pm
Already considered Google Checkout as a payment option?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:51 pm
I really am not trying to spam, so please bear with my questions if you will.
This is based on trying to go through the checkout process for the following file: https://files.dreamhost.com/330/What_If.mov
After adding the file to my cart, being told the item is in my cart, then clicking on checkout, I’m told there are no items in my cart. I presume this is related to not being able to create an account in the first place, however if I ever wanted to distribute a file for free, would every user need to set up an account just to download it?
Thanks,
Michael
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:00 pm
iTunes is for suckers.
AllOfMP3.com offers a great selection of legal, reasonably-priced music without the Digital Rights Mafia sticking it’s finger in your eye. Vote with your wallet.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:24 pm
I’m curious as of why the files have to be over 1mb?
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:30 pm
lol, you guys are nuts. this opens a can of worms for your litigation department, you can bet :P
still, kudos for a brave move. it’s this kind of step-ahead mentality that will hopefully keep dreamhost at its best.
regards
rich
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:04 pm
I’ve never used iTunes. I’m rebelling against the iPod status quo, but I found Emusic.com, which does exactly what iTunes doesn’t: no DRM, and you can re-download your previously-downloaded music. Check it out.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:10 pm
Is the source for your application available?
-Sam
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:38 pm
> lol, you guys are nuts. this opens a can of worms for your
> litigation department, you can bet :P
Naw, this isn’t going to make much of a different for us. As my colleague Karl implied, from a legal point of view this really isn’t any different than someone hosting said file under their regular web space. If we receive a DMCA Notification from a copyright holder or their legal representative, we’ll take the content in question offline. Just because it’s through this service doesn’t make any difference, legally speaking.
While we think DRM sucks and the recording industry is trying to play the middle man long after being a middle man ceased to be fashionable, we still respect copyrights and will enforce our TOS as it applies to copyright infringement.
- Jeff C. @ DreamHost
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:03 pm
Why is this limited to 1MB-or-larger files? I sell a number of tiny (40-100KB) games through a shareware provider that rapes me financially since I’m low volume. I’d totally move them over to Files Forever but they’re _too small_. I could pad them out to 1MB, but that’s just dumb.
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:03 pm
How can anyone say this site is “beta”? Because it certainly doesn’t work on OS X 10.4.8 - Firefox 1.5.0.7 or Safari 2.0.4. I can’t sign up for an account, and if I use my DH credentials, I “sort of” get logged in, but then can’t do anything after that. No instructions anywhere either. Come on guys, let’s get a marginally-working site together!
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:44 pm
that last hat looks hand knit :)
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:04 pm
So if I want to upload my personal mp3 collection, and make it private, will I be asked to take it down? I’m a little puzzled because I would *LOVE* an “off-site” backup, but I don’t want to upload all of them just to be told to take them down a week later.
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:12 pm
I can’t login either. I just keep getting “404 Error: Please re-check that URL or log in.” whatever credentials (Dreamhost-hosted email accounts) I provide, or even if I try to set up a new account. Since other people seem to have logged in OK, has something broken recently?
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:22 pm
I second the http://www.allofmp3.com awesomeness! Great organization, and even better with the desktop client. Anyway, it seems I’m not the only one who can’t get to the “beta” site as expected. Isn’t that called alpha?
It sounds cool on paper so far, but inability to use any functionality seems an akward marketing strategy at best.
love dan
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:25 pm
first Files Forever album?
https://files.dreamhost.com/5311/e4e5.zip
Artist: CHRIS GARVER
Album : e4/e5 (2006)
e4e5.zip (82MB) contains 14 Mp3s (320kbps). Cover art included.
FOURTEEN shady tales of harmolodic & misanthropic folk-rock!
Songs about elected servants and employed servants. Songs about shock and awe, the beatniks, & holy Moses. Songs about Paul Bunyan, Tammy Faye, & Zelda Fitzgerald. Posthumous songs, sacreligious songs, contradictory slanderings… Jewelry store robberies, the language virus, & the reawakening of the languished American dream?
‘e4/e5′ Tracklisting
========================
01 An Oath, an Oath, I have an Oath
02 No Ideas But in Things
03 Wasp in the House
04 Lost Fearsome
05 You Bring the Banker Honey
06 Heaven’s Thirst & Death’s Lapse
07 Put the Papers Away
08 Love Song Indeed
09 When Your Momma Leaves
10 Until the Concrete Splits
11 The Southfork Luncheon Blues
12 Blood, Ink & Print
13 Sweet Lord Play Me False
14 The Animals are Always on Your Side
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:29 pm
It would be great if there were a way to preview content before buying it.
And you need some sort of navigation/tagging system to help people find new and interesting content.
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:37 pm
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October 3rd, 2006 at 8:46 pm
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October 3rd, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Note that buying music from AllofMP3.com as a US citizen is illegal. The site itself is only legal in Russia for Russian citizens due to some goofy outdated laws they have. And they also don’t pay a dime to the artists you’re buying the music from. It’s not any better ethically or legally than downloading free music from BitTorrent.
October 3rd, 2006 at 9:51 pm
pretty disheartening to hear your own host is opposed to allowing content owners the right to protect their interests.
This FilesForever product looks like a scam. If people are “pirates at heart” as you propose then why would anyone pay for anything from your service?
The answer is they wont.
Regards,
Christopher
http://www.dayagainstdrm.com
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:05 pm
Just some notes: I believe we’ve fixed the 404 errors, problems creating accounts and logging in.. if anybody still has problems, please post at this discussion board thread:
http://discussion.dreamhost.com/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=betatesting&Number=56749&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=14&part=1#Post56824
Also, no, you do not have to have an active Web Hosting account with us for your files to be accessible forever (you do need one to upload them in the first place right now).
And, yes, you can back up your own files with this service, but do NOT make anything publicly accessible you do not own the rights to.
As for the 1MB limit, it was kind of arbitrary.. we figured most files under 1MB are not usually “Sellable”, and that people COULD pad things to be big enough, as dumb as that sort of is. The way the thing scans directories we didn’t want somebody just entering their email folder as a test and accidentally filling our db with ten thousand bogus entries! But we could probably set a flag on certain accounts to get that limit lowered, sure.. it’s still (heavy) BETA!
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:06 pm
Christopher, you may want to go back and read the earlier comments a bit closer.
As for Dreamhost as a company, I’m pretty damn impressed. They are my seventh web host in nine years, because I have high standards. They have not only met my expectations, they have actually exceeded them. Files Forever is a great example of what I mean.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:13 pm
For what it’s worth, Apple let me download songs from the iTunes Music Store again. All I did was write a polite email asking them to do so. Took less than a day for them to re-activate all the downloads.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:33 pm
As of few days ago, http://allofmp3.com is no longer legal in Russia or anywhere else.
The laws have been changed, and now does not allow selling mp3’s without agreement with labels/artists.
But no doubt, this is the absolutely right remove DRM and let people redownload as many times, as they want.
There are some new projects in russia, that implement such practice, but they are still in early betas, and do not contain western music
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:36 pm
Ouch… I just figured out the part about 1MB files.
I still think it’s a nice service for what it’s primarily designed for… selling A/V files.
But I misread the:
“You can also keep the files you upload private.. so Files Forever also doubles as a very cost-effective permanent online archive solution, as well as an easy way to email big files to your friends.”
… part to mean that I could archive, i.e., backup stuff.
But if I have to limit it to 1MB files and higher, that ain’t gonna work!
… part to mean that I could archive, i.e., backup stuff.
But if I have to limit it to 1MB files and higher, that ain’t gonna work!
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:36 pm
Oops, forgive bottom double cut and paste lack of editing part.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:40 pm
Christoph, you could zip a bunch of files together as long as you make sure its 1MBs worth
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:44 pm
Because I don’t know anywhere else to say this, I will say it here–
It is worth paying seven bucks a month for the dreamhost newsletter alone! it has me laughing every single time.
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:40 pm
I just get an error message when i visit the page:
404 Error: Please re-check that URL or log in.
(even though my name appears as logged in on the left-side column)
October 4th, 2006 at 12:15 am
Okay, no more 404 errors! No more disappearing items errors!
If anybody hasn’t totally given up on the service yet, things should be okay.. you see, we’re not like Google.
When we say “beta!” we mean it.
October 4th, 2006 at 4:25 am
[...] Any file you get from there you can re-download forever for free.. and even loan it to your friends so THEY can download it. Files with DRM are strictly prohibited. Also works as a cheap, permanent personal online archive. Currently in "beta"..read more | digg story [...]
October 4th, 2006 at 6:13 am
Apple and DRM can go right to hell!…
I’ve ranted about the stupidity of DRM plenty before, so we’ll just leave that topic alone. But I would just like to point out the amusement factor that comes with the topic. Particularly in the form of the nod from……
October 4th, 2006 at 6:31 am
This is some righteous. Can’t wait to play with it.
I’m a recording/selling singer/songwriter, and I’m working out a strategy that probably won’t get me a lot of money, but it’ll sure make life easier for me and my fans.
1) Everyone can download my music for free as individual mp3 files, Creative Commons’d. (At johnvoorhees.com, yo!)
2) People can BUY zipped files of CD projects, which are higher bitrate files and include printable pdfs of cover art that can be inserted into a jewel case, looking halfway respectable (as long as you’ve got ink in your printer!).
3) People can buy pre-made physical CDs from CDBaby.
Files Forever sounds like it’ll fit very well into this scenario, and take BitPass out of the equation. Well done, DH!
(And well done Chris Garver, too. You got any free samples to listen to?)
(Cuz I DO! http://www.johnvoorhees.com)
October 4th, 2006 at 8:06 am
in the potential interest of me using this as a backend service and trying to give it a professional feel…
have you thought about an api for checking out, etc.? so we can skin it our way?
October 4th, 2006 at 9:36 am
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October 4th, 2006 at 9:48 am
I can think of lots of saleable files that are less than a megabyte long. Aside from various small utilities, there are eBooks! Even if you don’t compress an eBook, most will be well under a megabyte.
October 4th, 2006 at 10:20 am
according to someone who works on itunes, re-downloading the music you bought is considered “rebroadcasting” by the music companies, and they charge apple a fee for that.
October 4th, 2006 at 10:29 am
For folks using it for software what about version control? An example I am putting together a VMware virtual machine with Puppy Linux, Xampp, Dataface and a couple of DF apps. I uploaded it last night, but today I had to make a change and so I had to reupload the entire thing. (Since it is in a virtual machine I cannot just change my files on the server). This is compressed at about 250MB.
So I would not want people downloading the incorrect file. Thus I would want a new upload to replace the old, inaccurate one. Secondly….if we upload a fix of the same file…is that an additional charge? Or is it part of the same fee already paid for the original file uploaded?
Thank you kindly.
October 4th, 2006 at 11:31 am
Here’s another vote for a smaller file size ceiling. I sell highly-customized Excel spreadsheets which are super tiny. Even when zipped up with documentation, they are 16-32k. And many people sell pdf booklets, which are often under 1MB.
Maybe some filetype exceptions for small files?
—-
On a new topic, for inexpensive files which sell for less than a few dollars, the “5% + 50c” fee is tough to bear.
For example, PayPal recently instituted a micropayments schedule which is better than their regular fee rate. It’s 5% + $.05. Doing the math, the break-even point vs their regular fees (2.9% + $.30) is for items which sell for less than $12:
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help&nodeid=25831&leafid=1669943&answer_id=16777216
I’ve tied it into the kludgy and poor payloadz.com service:
http://payloadz.com/help/detail.asp?Id=52
http://tinyurl.com/82sz4
…would be nice to ditch both of these for this new dreamhost service instead! If only the rate was better…
October 4th, 2006 at 11:37 am
[...] Dreamhost has just announced another innovation in hosting that is very interesting indeed. They’re calling this new innovation Files Forever. The feature is designed as a shot across the bow of DRM based media distribution companies. In fact, iTunes is prominently mentioned in the Dreamhost announcement. [...]
October 4th, 2006 at 12:05 pm
Add me to the vote for small and large size files. Not only for distribution, but for an excellent paid backup system. I realize we can zip up files..but that means we have to download an entire zip just to get one file…
October 4th, 2006 at 2:05 pm
[...] Popular hosting company DreamHost has launched a new service called Files Forever (available to Dreamhost customers during beta phase). Files Forever is similar to iTunes, but with improved and added features. Users can sell, loan, and download (as many times as they please) their files via the service, so long as they have no DRM. Dreamhost is handling the payment processing and host the file(s) permanently. Read more about it on the DreamHost blog entry! [...]
October 4th, 2006 at 2:50 pm
iTunes is not just the mainstream…
iTunes Store features thousands of indie artists who release their material without a label as a middle man. Just because the big labels work with iTunes doesn’t mean they own the store. When you buy indie/unsigned music the money go directly to the artist (minus a small fee for Apple and the distributor).
Try taking a cd you broke back to the store…
Three months ago, my music drive died. It took one e-mail and less than 48 hours for the iTunes people to allow me to download everything I have ever bought. Every single song. It is going to take a while, of course, since we are talking about lots of albums. But they were very kind and helpful.
About DRM…
Take any cd from your collection and have a look at the top. It says “unauthorized reproduction, hiring, lending, public performance and broadcasting prohibited.” This is a restriction from the artist/label, similar to DRM. The only difference is you can ignore this restriction and pretend it wasn’t there…
October 4th, 2006 at 6:12 pm
DreamHost Unveils un-DRM Storage & File Store…
DreamHost Blog » iTunes Music Sore,today, October 3rd, 2006, The Day Against DRM, were announcing a new (beta!) product:Files Forever!What is it?Its a new service (during the beta only open to DreamHost Customers) that allows you to sell your own …
October 4th, 2006 at 6:12 pm
I don’t know how often it happens but a friend of mine re-formatted his Mac but forgot to back-up hundreds of songs purchased from iTunes. I told him that their policy is to usually charge again for downloads but to write anyway. They came through and allowed him to re-download the songs he purchased for free, “just this once” as a courtesy. That aside, I like the idea of “files forever” and I am am blown away by all the good news in the most recent DH newsletter. BTW, your new site rocks - great way to market one of the key aspects that makes DH different - the people! Now, maybe it would also be good to have a page dedicated to explaining the benefits of Linux/Unix hosting vs the other guys.
October 4th, 2006 at 11:54 pm
Thanks for your monthly newsletter. It always makes me laugh, and I’m refreshed that there is a company out there that isn’t afraid to admit that REAL neurotic normal-ass people work there.
Thanks for the slice of reality. I’ll stay even if your network can suck my balls sometimes. Then again I work for an even larger network and I understand where the suckage comes from. Sunspots. Hahahahhahahahha. Thank Cisco for that comment.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:10 am
Happy Birthday DreamHost…
DreamHost is turning 9, and has announced a few crazy things in its birthday bash.
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October 5th, 2006 at 6:52 am
What is the price? The newsletter says $7. The File Forever Control Panel says $8 and the “hover” says $3. What is it? Also how do we get more info on this? Screenshots, user manuals or how-to’s? I am interested because of the credit card processing but want to know more.
October 5th, 2006 at 8:17 am
[...] DreamHost Blog » iTunes Music Sore The iTunes Music Store SUCKS! down with drm [...]
October 5th, 2006 at 9:37 am
[...] 0. Introduction.1. It’s our birthday? Double the bandwidth, tenify the disk!2. Shared + Dedicated? Shedicated!3. Down with DRM? Up with Files! Forever!4. RSS Feeds? The Discussion Board!5. Who needs catch-alls? Not+you@dreamhost.com!6. Transferring a .com? .net? You need an auth code!7. Old Charities? New Charities!8. Network problems? Fixed!9. DHSOTM? DHSOTM!####################################0. Introduction.Did you SEE that Table of Contents? Holy Cram-oly! Maybe I should donewsletters like last month’s more often! I don’t know where all thisstuff came from, but I PROMISED something SUPER last month, and whatbetter chance to DELIVER something SUPER than by delivering LOTS of SO-SO? It’s the shotgun method of great web hosting features!It’s also like my mama always told me. She told me, “Son, better to dolots of mediocre things than one thing that’s really good. That way,people will know you were trying, even if you are a little dumb.”That crazy Mama, she made me! Or maybe it was all my Papa, with hisfailed shotgun method of birth control.And uh, my apologies that there’s NO TIME for a silly THEME this month,I’ve got WAY too many average, run-of-the-mill, ho-hum features to plowthrough!###############################1. It’s our birthday? Double the bandwidth, tenify the disk!So, what feature WAS I alluding to last month anyway? Could it that it’snow been NINE years since we registered dreamhost.com, and to celebratewe’ve upped everybody’s disk and bandwidth, AGAIN, wellll beyond therealm of possible use: up to TEN times the disk (including growth rate)and at LEAST double the bandwidth (also including weekly growth rate)!And as usual, all existing customers get it too, and you don’t even haveto do anything to upgrade. It’s … already … happened.Anyway, that puts us at, um. Er. I’m not sure. A lot. Check it out:http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting.htmlBut WAIT! Is that a new site design for dreamhost.com I see? And what’sthat on the main page? Pictures of employees and RSS feeds? GRADIENTS?Amazing! What version of the web would you even CONSIDER a site likethis? It’s gotta be more than 1.5, possibly even 1.9..This is some kind of killer upgrade, for sure. Possibly even SUPER.And for those of you who say, “SCREW all the features, ALL I *really*want is website, email, and database stability!” I say, “You are smart.”#####################################2. Shared + Dedicated? Shedicated!Okay smarties. If you’re so SMART, and you hate features, why do youkeep hosting with us? Who’s SMART NOW?! Don’t worry, you still are.Because we’re half-way back to dedicated servers! And everybody KNOWSdedicated servers are The Best Way to get all the LAME features ofDreamHost plus all the AWESOME admin skills of YOURSELF.Except wait! You’re not an ADMIN (some of you). And DreamHost is notreally THAT bad.. now that we fixed our network problems (see eightbelow). That was not a subliminal ad for the movie (with Paul Walker),that was to point you to section #8 below. (Snow dogs are cute.)What I’m saying is, maybe you DON’T need root access to a server to behappy. Maybe you just need your own “shared” machine.. just not actuallyshared with anybody else. And maybe, just maybe, you’ve got $395/monthburning a hole in your butt.In which case, “Shedicated” hosting is for you! OR, as the less creativecall it, “Strictly Business Enhanced”:http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting-dedicated.htmlGet all the FUN of your own server, but without having to deal with anyof the DUMB. Apart from the fact you’ll still get this newsletter.And THAT is a SUPER feature, desu ne?######################################3. Down with DRM? Up with Files! Forever!Nah, I didn’t think so EITHER.What would be REALLY super is if there was an iTunes-like digital storethat didn’t put any DRM on their songs and let you re-download them ifyou ever lost them. Or, if there were an online file backup servicewhere you only had to pay once, instead of monthly, THAT’D be super. OrACTUALLY, if DreamHost offered an easy way to email large files to myfriends. Now THAT would be super.But all three, in one, that’d be complicated, stupid and POOPER.Well, you know me. All in three!https://files.dreamhost.com/Try it now while it’s still in BETA.. before it gets GOOD!Oh, and if my NEWSLETTER doesn’t make any SENSE:http://blog.dreamhost.com/2006/10/03/itunes-music-soreFor those who like pictures. And don’t already have it all RSS-ified up!######################################4. RSS Feeds? The Discussion Board!RSS? On the Discussion board? Yes; it’s true, “REALLY SUPER SYNDICATION”is here at last, here at least, thank lord almighty, it’s here at last!http://discussion.dreamhost.com/wwwthreads.plSee all those little orange peels all over the place? That’s some superfeature for yah.#######################################5. Who needs catch-alls? Not+you@dreamhost.com!I think we’ve already had more than our fair share of totally awesomefeatures for the month of September, plus three days, but I’ve beenwrong once before (I’m sure of it).Which is why it never hurts to add a few more not-your-run-of-the-millfeatures. Say for example, this one… a feature I’m pretty darn sure NOOTHER WEBHOST ON THE PLANET OFFERS. And I say this after literally yearsof checking:Starting right now, all your email addresses have a sneaky new feature: Built-in catchalls!How does it work? It’s easy! For every email address we host you can adda + sign and then ANYTHING before the @, and it’ll go to the same place.So, if you have an email address like say:josh@ilovemoneyandbunnies.comThe following addresses now all go to the same place:josh+ferrets@ilovemoneyandbunnies.comjosh+jones@ilovemoneyandbunnies.comjosh+dreamhost_spams_dont_they@ilovemoneyandbunnies.comWhat’s the point of that?Well, now every time you have to give out your email address to somebodyyou hate, you tell them it’s got a + in it and then some uniqueidentifier like:josh+damnyousteve@ilovemoneyandbunnies.comAnd then when they start spamming you some day, you can easily set upyour mailbox to auto-delete messages sent to that address!SUPER? More than its fair share.########################################6. Transferring a .com? .net? You need an auth code!Finally, the feature we’ve all been waiting for! I know you saw it upthere in the table of contents and were just DYING to get to it! But youhad to wade through all that other stuff first, because to skip aroundlike that would be like getting a Mona Lisa beach towel.It would violate the sanctity of my art.I thank you for respecting my wishes, and reading this newsletter in theorder it was originally intended.You will not be disappointed. And I will make you wait no longer..It’s TRUE, .com and .net are finally switching to EPP.. which meanswithin the next few weeks (it should be by October 15th) to transfer a.com or .net domain *REGISTRATION* you’ll need to get an auth code fromyour existing registrar.You can see your existing auth codes for domains registered through usalready at:https://panel.dreamhost.com/?tree=domain.transferFinally, you can relax. The superest of all supery features is past us.##########################################7. Old Charities? New Charities!Sigh, it seems like it’s been like a quarter of a year since we had apost like THIS in the newsletter. I’m getting all doe-eyed. SNIFF.We’re switching up the charities available for you to donate to and getyour donations matched by us at:https://panel.dreamhost.com/?tree=home.charityThe first place we’re letting you donate to is “Defective By Design” ..the ones who are having a “Day Against DRM” which is what INSPIRED our“Files Forever” service. At least to be launched today, probably a goodthree to five years before it’s ready.http://defectivebydesign.org/The other place we’ll match you up on is “Santa’s Helpers” (of GonzalesCounty, Texas, for some reason) .. a place that’ll help get some kidssome presents this Christmas if you give them some money. At the rate wechange charities, I figured NOW IS THE TIME.http://www.santas-helpers.org/In retrospect, in July-September we got $904.21 from 36 people for theWorld Wildlife fund, matched it, and also got $383.32 from 17 people forThe Colorectal Cancer Coalition, and decided to match that too.Aw…#####################################8. Network problems? Fixed!Do you know I actually moved this section to number eight just so Icould do that LAME eight below joke above? I now realize how pitifulthat is. In fact, this whole section is nothing more than a cheesy wayto bulk up this newsletter to be more SUPER after last month’s dismalexcuse for a newsletter darkened your e-mailbox.All I’ve got to say here is really, we’ve turned the corner and theperformance and stability problems we had much of the last two monthsare slowly fading into the setting sun. Literally. I’m not sure how itcould be literal, but I always like it when football announcers saystuff like, “He literally knocked his head off on that hit!”Anyway, Dallas splained it all a couple of weeks ago on ZE BLOG:http://blog.dreamhost.com/2006/09/19/anatomy-of-a-disaster-part-2/SUPER?!#####################################9. DHSOTM? DHSOTM!Finally, the REAL secret of this month’s newsletter has been revealed!The DreamHost Site of the Month winner is none other than:http://www.santas-helpers.org/Look familiar? I promise, they actually won! In fact, that’s why I madethem a charity. Believe it or not, I wrote this section before sectionnumber 7. That’s just the way my artistic soul had me do it. I can’tcontrol it. I just have to be happy I’ve been blessed with such a giftand do my best to share it with the world.Get your own site all popular and make lots of money, bunny:https://panel.dreamhost.com/?tree=home.dhsotmThat’s what I’d do, if my soul weren’t just in it for the love of mycraft.#########################################Now THAT’S a newsletter?Josh Jones!Now NOT a newsletter?https://panel.dreamhost.com/id/?tab=contactUnsubscribe, foo’! [...]
October 5th, 2006 at 9:57 am
Something to remember, if you’re using this service as a “backup” service for your documents, most of which are not 1meg, zip them together! ( http://www.7-zip.org/ or “compressed folders” for windows, Mac and Linux etc come with them built in I believe!)
Then you likely have a single large file you can backup to the service. And sell to your friends. Or enemies. Just make sure your tax returns aren’t in there first!
October 5th, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Another recommendation for allofmp3.com. Love it. Thanks Russkies.
:)
October 5th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
Let me see - you trust your credit card and personal info to a russian illegal website but not to iTunes or CdBaby?
Are you aware that allofmp3.com does not give money to the artists…?
Perhaps you could spare some minutes from your life to discover the truth behind allofmp3.com.
Or, you can just go on and pretend that you are not doing anything wrong since you didn’t know…
Yes, that’s really more convenient. Let’s ingore the artists and grab what we can…
October 5th, 2006 at 5:21 pm
“The way the thing scans directories we didn’t want somebody just entering their email folder as a test and accidentally filling our db with ten thousand bogus entries!”
Ok, that makes lots of sense.
If this is something you can look at post-beta, that would be awesome.
I think you might want to do some kind of ’scan and then make sure this is what you want’ anyway (e.g. to verify you want to spend the money, and that you didn’t typo the directory name or whatever), so it wouldn’t be hard to have the scanner have a checkbox that defaults to off that says “include files under 1MB” (although sure, you could hide it elsewhere in the per-user stuff too if you want).
Also, I wouldn’t have any problem with the one-time storage cost being minimum-of-1MB-per-file (so it’s the same as if I padded it), to offset the database cost a little and to discourage people from backing up raw directories instead of zipped directories. Then you wouldn’t need to restrict it to users who promise not to abuse it, since it wouldn’t be abuseable.
October 5th, 2006 at 6:58 pm
[...] We handle all the payment processing / shopping cart stuff, and take just 5% + 50c for credit card fees. (We combine purchases to minimize these costs too.) # You can even offer an “affiliate cut” for people who re-sell your files! DreamHost Blog » iTunes Music Sore [...]
October 6th, 2006 at 4:26 am
AllofMP3 Becomes Major Chip in US, Russian Discussions
As Russia pushes for entrance into the World Trade Organization, the controversy regarding AllofMP3.com threatens to derail American approval. The United States has elevated the digital download service to the top of its grievance list, citing the destination as a prime example of Russian disregard for international copyright. The US is demanding that the Russians close the site immediately, or again be rebuffed by the WTO. US Trade Representative Susan Schwab told reporters, “I have a hard time imagining Russia becoming a member of the WTO and having a website like that up and running that is so clearly a violation of everyone’s intellectual property
rights.”
Despite the focus on AllofMP3.com, it is hard to fathom that the site is on equal footing with other WTO issues like Russian nuclear technology sales to Iran. Four US Senators already warned Schwab they will attempt to block Russian WTO efforts over the Iran issue, which means AllofMP3.com is really just one of several bargaining chips. But bargaining chips can work for both sides. If Russia fails in its latest bid for membership, it could allow AllofMP3.com to thrive as leverage for future trade talks. That would produce the opposite effect of what the entertainment industry wants.
Meanwhile, Russia is in a heated conflict with WTO member Georgia, a country that poses a threat to entry. If Georgia successfully excludes Russia, though could also give AllofMP3.com a tenuous, but potentially long-lasting,
reprieve. Meanwhile, Sony BMG is not taking any chances. The label announced today that it is entering the Russian online music market with $0.60 downloads, part of an attempt offset AllofMP3.com’s influence.
source: digitalmusicnews.com
October 6th, 2006 at 11:51 am
[...] 前几天Dreamhost在宣布增加空间容量和月流量的同时，也宣布站到Anti-DRM阵营一边，并且推出了Files Forever服务。虽然这项服务如果可以进展顺利，终究是Dreamhost赚钱的一种手段，但还是很钦佩一家正规网络公司能有这样的魄力。Dreamhost官方Blog里说 Because we’re all pirates at heart. [...]
October 6th, 2006 at 7:56 pm
LOL @ DH’s attempt at selling potentially copyrighted material. Screw DRM, nobody likes it…now copyright infringement by selling a product in a way it was not intended can surely get DH in deep trouble. Sometimes I truly wonder what lower body orifice “Josh Jones”’s head is on the inside of. Maybe time will prove me wrong and FilesForever will become the dominant file-for-pay sharing service of the web 2.0 LOL
LOL @ (paraphrased quote) “Apple should replace my songs if I lose them somehow.” Absolutely rubbish.
Blogs’ trackbacks’ usually decay into drivel after a few posts…this one had no chance cause the blog entry they are about if in and of itself drivel.
October 9th, 2006 at 11:47 pm
[...] esoterica: why atheists care about religion on the new nba basketball building from year 8800 BC. wtf?! autosummarize a word document “critical” firefox flaw just a joke adding google gadgets the truth about food expiration dates wow. dreamhost rules. [...]
October 10th, 2006 at 5:00 am
[...] Files Forever is a new service from DreamHost where anybody (well, during the beta test it is only open to current DreamHost customers) can quickly and easily set up their own iTunes-like store for any sort of file downloads.. with a difference: NO DRM! Files with Digital Rights Management of any kind are strictly prohibited on Files Forever. It just goes against the whole point of the thing. [...]
October 10th, 2006 at 4:51 pm
Maybe a case of RTFM, RTFP(ost), and RTFC(omments), which I *think* I did well enough, but is there a specific link to the exact TOS regarding this?
I understand that it’s basically the same terms as the webhosting, but something about that nags at me. With webhosting you can have fun scripts and private folders and all sorts of tricks and traps to make it clear that you are doing offsite backups as opposed to distributing sensitive data.
Still, if you had the usage scenario where you wanted to post copyrighted material in a simple and permanent place where you could access it anywhere (distributed software/OS installs, streaming a favorite song from anywhere, etc.), clearly for personal use but also unfortunately in a venue where it could be accessed by anyone, would it be likely for your file hosting to eventually get kacked?
If so, would there be a refund involved if the user could suitably prove that they didn’t intend to make a nuisance of themselves on purpose? ;)
Which also brings up the question.. suppose I *did* take blatant advantage of this service by hosting an operating ISO image that thousands of installers across the globe would be using constantly, churning the disks and routers into a tizzy. Are you guys able to handle that?
Just curious. :)
As far as I can tell the referrer systems and file sales systems are so smart that they’re evil, and you and everyone else are going to *rake* in the cash as well as turn shareware software distribution into a giant crazy pyramid scheme or something. ;) However, do please ease the fears of a poor client who would probably use the service for legal-gray-area activities and stuff that might take advantage of your hospitality of not deterred.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:53 pm
Maybe a case of RTFM, RTFP(ost), and RTFC(omments), which I *think* I did well enough, but is there a specific link to the exact TOS regarding this?
I understand that it’s basically the same terms as the webhosting, but something about that nags at me. With webhosting you can have fun scripts and private folders and all sorts of tricks and traps to make it clear that you are doing offsite backups as opposed to distributing sensitive data.
Still, if you had the usage scenario where you wanted to post copyrighted material in a simple and permanent place where you could access it anywhere (distributed software/OS installs, streaming a favorite song from anywhere, etc.), clearly for personal use but also unfortunately in a venue where it could be accessed by anyone, would it be likely for your file hosting to eventually get kacked?
If so, would there be a refund involved if the user could suitably prove that they didn’t intend to make a nuisance of themselves on purpose? ;)
Which also brings up the question.. suppose I *did* take blatant advantage of this service by hosting an operating ISO image that thousands of installers across the globe would be using constantly, churning the disks and routers into a tizzy. Are you guys able to handle that?
Just curious. :)
As far as I can tell the referrer systems and file sales systems are so smart that they’re evil, and you and everyone else are going to *rake* in the cash as well as turn shareware software distribution into a giant crazy pyramid scheme or something. ;) However, do please ease the fears of a poor client who would probably use the service for legal-gray-area activities and stuff that might take advantage of your hospitality if not deterred.
October 10th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
The thing is that Josh in his attempt to sound funny and witty actually made a rectum out of himself. I suppose he’s not catering to the corporate/biz crowd that would take their biz somewhere else if they ever got such an asinine newsletter.
I think it just shows that DH does not take their job (i.e. hosting) seriously. Or, they only want a piece of the economical/garage-website-maker niche pie and nothing else.
If I would’t have been so trusting and moving/pointing all my domains to DH, I would be in the lookout for a more serious-minded, reliable host.
October 11th, 2006 at 1:18 am
I like DH, I haven´t much (1 or 2 small ones) problems at all and I´m going on one year.
But as mentioned, I´d like to have a serious customer/hosting relationship once in a while. The DH newsletters aren´t funny, I want to be informed in a professional way on how my services are developing.
I do however recognise this blog and dhstatus as great initiatives and some of the personal touch DH has. I don´t believe DH are just out to fuck around and steal our cash, obviously they´re not given the size of their business.
But, the unprofessional elements do get annoying, I miss my old hosting newsletters.
October 11th, 2006 at 3:32 am
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October 11th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
“I miss my old hosting newsletters.”
Don’t hold your breath waiting for Josh…or Dreamhost…or its employees to ever follow the dull corporate path. That’s not who they are. The still have the kid in them…they like hammering the crap out of a sidekick cell phone…and possibly microwaving it. They have a pipe named ‘Ted’ which I refer to in many of my support tickets to them.
I for one work 16 hour days as a web developer/designer and come here to read these funnies. (actually the whining is hilariously funny too..thanks.)
Unprofessional? No, not in the least bit. Great Marketing Campaigners….heck ya!
Look how many of these blog entries get tops at digg.com. They certainly have people watching what’s gonna be next.
Rock On DH…Peace Out
October 11th, 2006 at 4:15 pm
As someone with multiple DH accounts, up to the $99 a month strictly business level, I love the newsletters just they way they are. I have been with multiple hosts and none gave me as many upgrades as this place does. If they want to joke, let them joke. I, for one, find them funny.
October 12th, 2006 at 7:58 am
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October 15th, 2006 at 2:11 am
Well, until I can get Madonna on somewhere without DRM I’ll continue to use iTS
October 17th, 2006 at 7:28 am
Right. So increase our storage by shitloads (I’m currently on 208GB - my HDD is only 120GB) then add a service that should only be aimed at content producers and try to sell it as a permanent backup system too.
One would hope that nothing is going to happen to our files on your server, if we leave them alone. So what’s the difference? Why pay more for this service as backup?
Just upload your files into your 100GB or more FTP space and password protect the directory. Why pay another $3 or $7 or $8 (whichever it is) when I can just wait another week for my next free GB?
Am I missing something?
October 18th, 2006 at 5:42 am
I use Anapod too, it’s pretty good.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:11 am
Just a suggestion, instead of focusing on music storage and the like why don’t you guys focus on improving your preformance?
http://www.thehostguru.com
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:28 am
[...] They have a blog, also written in a human voice. It’s not necessary for DreamHost to have a blog – I’m sure their servers would go on working just fine even if they didn’t write a single humorous post about things such as why they’re having trouble buying a new storage solution or why iTunes Music Store sucks. They even posted about a silly mistake the CEO of their favorite competitor made in an interview in a magazine. [...]
November 28th, 2006 at 11:30 am
I just got my 2000t and all of my songs are skipping in iTunes, and I cant figure out why. If someone could help me out and tell me how to fix this I would really appreciate it because its driving me crazy. Thanks for the replys.
November 29th, 2006 at 7:35 am
The program for iTunes DRM is called SOUNDTAXI. It’s easy to use just add the files to the list and convert!
Sure, their team’s worthy of appreciation just for coming up with a program that opposes the Itunes .M4p files and the rest of the corrupt DRM-fed industry.
November 30th, 2006 at 3:48 am
[...] First a word about bit rates as they relate to the quality of your rips. Converting CD quality audio files to 128kbps mp4s during a rip represents a serious degradation in quality to your treasured CDs. Sure you save some space on your hard drive, but really, why f*#@ up your rips (which essentially amount to backups) and waste time copying your music to your harddive with anything less than the highest quality? Coencidentally, this is why I have generally negative feelings towards the itunes store as well – why buy tracks in a format that is (a) protected in such a way that your ownership rights are murky and (b) comes in a quality so low that aliasing can commonly be heard? As much as I would like to toast some more haterade to itunes in this article, I shall refrain – but believe me, I have at least a few more full glasses of the stuff. . . for the record, while I do admit itunes has its pros and cons and it makes a fascinating subject in light of the rapidly developing sales of music via the internet, until such a time I when harness my vitrolic prose to spew forth venom freely on the subject, I will have to refer you here and here. [...]
December 6th, 2006 at 3:53 pm
Wow, just saw this from the DefectiveByDesign website… and this is great!
I know who my next web host is.
December 12th, 2006 at 9:08 pm
Used TRY90 code to signup with dreamhost
August 15th, 2008 at 6:47 am
HI MAR WHAT TO PLAY TOMORROW…………..=)
August 15th, 2008 at 6:49 am
HI BESTFRIEND HOW R U?????????????????????t.y heeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
August 15th, 2008 at 6:54 am
WE SHOULD TRUST GOD TO PROTEC OUR FRIENDSHIP TO PROTEC OUR SELF SPEICALY OUR PARENTS AND FRIENDS GOD BLESS YOU ALL T.Y
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:32 am
here is another one who is really fast and simple with no ads and no waiting: http://upload.inesports.com/ works pretty neat.
October 13th, 2008 at 2:46 am
The new iTunes 8 is now screen reader friendly on both Mac and PC, or use your screen reader to purchase or download content from the iTunes Store. I got it from here: rosoftdownload.com/download/Windows/iTunes
October 15th, 2008 at 2:48 am
Thank You…
October 28th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
thanks..