OpenSRS-less!

November 4, 2005 on 11:17 am | In Insider View, Musings, Rants by Josh Jones | 17 Comments

buh bye two cows!

I thought this day would never come.

We’re finally done with OpenSRS.. all (er, except for about 50, but they’ll be gone soon) the domain registrations we had with them have finally been transferred over to our real ICANN-accredited registrar accounts!

You probably don’t understand how big this is, nor know how long in the coming it’s been.

It’s BIG, and it’s been a Long Time Coming.

Waaay back when, probably around 1999-ish, we signed up with OpenSRS, a then-new service from Tucows to resell the registration of domain names. We were too small (and too disorganized) to get a real ICANN-accredited registrar account back then, and Tucows’ system offered a way for us to start providing registration services to go along with our web hosting.

We actually have about ZERO interest in the domain registration business, and its related offshoots (domain reselling, back-ordering, parked pages with adsense, etc..), but just like airlines have to serve something like food, a web host pretty much has to offer domain registrations. Up until that point, we’d just been registering people’s domains for them with network solutions (and I believe we tried register.com for a little while too).

There were two good things about OpenSRS… they were cheap for the time ($10/domain year), and they had an API we could use to create our own registration management interface built right in to our web panel.

And two things only.

There were numerous idiosyncrocies with their system.

For one, international characters in whois information seemed to break everything.
We had to work around this by doing our own stripping of all accented characters submitted from our web panel.

For two, they required sending some emails of their own to the end-users (though you could customize the message). This was annoying because we already had our own email reminder system that we liked better, but we couldn’t stop them from also sending their reminder to our customers.

For three, you needed to assign a username and password for every domain registered to allow the end-user to manage it from OpenSRS’s control panel.
We decided for simplicity, and since we didn’t want our end-users to use OpenSRS’s control panel anyway, that we’d just use the same username and password for all domains we registered. This was fine until one day everything stopped working! It turned out Tucows had changed their API and passwords with a “#” in them were no longer valid. Ours happened to have a # in it. Eventually we discovered this was the problem and asked support to just remove the # from the password on the 30,000 domains we had at the time, and we’d update the password in our code. They said they couldn’t do this, and the only way to change the password for a domain was to log into their control panel and change it manually.. for EACH one! I asked them if they realized we had over 30,000 domains with them, to which their only solution was to “use macro express”.

Program nice, having to use it, dumb!

(“Macro Express” is an application for windows that can use a spreadsheet to automate various programs, including Internet Explorer. I finally realized this was the only option they were going to give me, so I set up a macro to connect to their control panel over and over and over again, changing that password again and again and again. Each connection took several seconds and for a period of 3 days my laptop was dedicated to running this CRAZY thing. CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY! Eventually it finished, but ever since that day there have been a few random domains that still have the old nasty “#” password.)

For four, if your account balance ever hit zero, EVERYTHING broke immediately.. even if say, you were one of their largest resellers, and had say, spent hundreds of thousands of dollars with them in the past, and say, had had this happened to you many times before. No matter what, you could NOT get so much as a $10 loan in their system. They even accepted credit card for payment and yet couldn’t just automatically rebill you when your funds got low!

All in all, they weren’t really that bad though.

When PIGS fly!

It just comes with the territory.. the more intermediaries you have in any transaction, the more chances for problems. When was the last time you used a travel agent, now that you can just buy your tickets directly from any airline via their website?

By connecting to OpenSRS to connect to VeriSign we had twice as many APIs that could break, twice as many servers involved, twice as many support teams, and twice as long a communication chain than if we were just connecting directly to VeriSign ourselves.

Which is why we eventually got ICANN-accredited and became an honest-to-goodness registrar ourselves. It wasn’t the $3 we saved per domain. It was never having to run Macro Express for three straight days again.

Once we became ICANN-accredited we immediately set to work transferring our existing OpenSRS domains over to our new account. At first, we thought this would be a simple one-time operation.. but it turned out the bulk transfer process ICANN has is only for the cases where an ENTIRE registrar’s domain base is moving to another one. Since we weren’t exactly buying OpenSRS out, we couldn’t use the registry-side bulk transfer we thought we could at first.

As it turned out, what we had to do instead was just 30,000 regular registrar transfers of the domains. That doesn’t seem like much of a problem, except that doing a transfer like this also renews the domain for a year. Since we didn’t want to spend $200,000+ renewing all of our customers domains when they weren’t even expiring, we decided to instead do a “sneaky transfer/renewal” (my term!) Basically, we set up our system so whenever somebody requested to renew an OpenSRS domain, we silently transferred it to us!

That's what I call real ultimate power!

To make the process all ninja, we’d first modify their admin email contact to be a special email address we had that automatically parsed and approved any OpenSRS transfer request emails it received. Then we’d submit the transfer request, and once it was transferred over, we’d change the admin email contact back, optionally renew it for any extra years (if it was like a two year renewal), and then send the “renewal success” email. It was a CRAZY system, but it more or less worked. Unfortunately, this process took a few days, so if somebody didn’t renew their domain until right before it expired, we had no choice but to renew for another year with OpenSRS.

It looked like we’d never be free of them!

But finally, a little while ago we got to the point where there were few enough domains left with OpenSRS (a couple thousand) that I decided it was just worth it to be done with them forever, and we just “sneaky transfer/renewed” the remaining domains, extra cost by darned! Of course, they didn’t all succeed, for various reasons (some domains had somehow gotten an entirely different OpenSRS password so we couldn’t manage them at all, some other domains were “registrar-locked” and so couldn’t be transferred), but after trying over and over again, finally TODAY we look like we’re down to only some random useless domains (old fraudulent accounts, people who left our service years ago and never transferred their registration, etc..).

We’ll be contacting Tucows Monday and officially closing our account. And then the real fun begins!

I get to delete thousands of lines of some of our oldest, nastiest code from CVS!

Ahhhhhhhh.

17 Responses to “OpenSRS-less!”

  1. Pange Says:

    Ah, three days running Macroexpress must have been awful! X_X

  2. Torch Says:

    I get to delete thousands of lines of some of our oldest, nastiest code from CVS!

    that is the best feeling in the universe, isn’t it?

  3. Jason Says:

    Fascinating… I never tire of reading about the crazy things that you have to do to make all the various systems work together. (Honestly, someday I expect a great post on all the code that holds the control panel together!)

  4. Remarque Says:

    I read this with my mouth open. While you’re complaining about Tucows sending emails to your customers, you glide over the fact that you removed any control of domain names from your customers. A registrar has a duty (required by ICANN) to give its customers information about their domains and access to them, and control over them — all of this for very good reasons. These are hard-fought consumer protections. Yet you blithely jeapordize their security (one password for everything!), modify their domain contact information without their knowledge or permissions, move them around from registrar to registrar without informing them, etc. WOW! A registrar who did this would face some pretty serious sanctions, and rightly so.

    I’d rather be an OpenSRS customer than yours.

  5. Alireza Says:

    That was interesting. Actually I had more or less same experiences with another ICANN registrar called OnlineNic Inc., Actually they are American based company but seems they are active in China. I don’t know why, but seems recruiting staff in China is much cheaper than US.
    Anyway I think what OpenSRS is doing , is similar to what other registrars are doing. They all think about hard changes for domain owners. They don’t want you to move fast. Even they don’t want to become involved in your business problems as they have their owns.
    So I think this will teach us how to plan and design our customer relationship scheme. How to respect customers and how to make our business updated with current technologies.
    Thanks for this story.

  6. riki Says:

    LOL a good read, you’d think that they’d roll out the vip treatment for a client with that many domain names. Oh well their loss.

  7. rlparker Says:

    Remarque had more than one good popint in his comment. Now, I love dreamhost, but I’m a little chagrined to hear how you accomplished the transfers without at least the knowledge and consent of the domain owners. That’s more than a little spooky to me.

    I had a similar circumstance a couple of years aga when I had numerous domains registered via DirectNIC, which, at the time, also used OpenSRS. Their process was to inform the customer *at the initiation of the renewal process* that a “renewal” would actually result in the registrar being changed from OpenSRS to the newly ICANN accredited DirectNIC registrar. I researched the situation and decided, “Cool”, and transferred the domain to DirectNIC at renewal time…a year latter all was well.

    I’m thinking that, as interesting a story as it was, you might have been well advised to have keep “the particulars” of the process you used as a closely guarded secret.

    he he he….
    rlparker

  8. SimsLife Says:

    I finally was able to transfer my domain name registration over to godaddy. This was for a non-Dreamhost site and it took nearly 6 months to get it all worked out.

    Be happy DHers that Dreamhost got rid of them. Be very, very, very, very happy.

    I had “no control” over my domain. None. I had to go through my hosting company, who would in turn contact OpenSRS and who would then tell me to fill out this form and sign it and then fax it or email (PDFd) to them.

    Glad you guys dropped them!!

  9. A View from Home Says:

    Reason #345 to register your own domain

    If you’ve been reading my blog for a while, you’ve heard me say this before… When you sign up with a hosting company, don’t let them register your domain for you. Do it yourself. I don’t care how reliable the…

  10. SimsLife Says:

    All of my domains now are registered with GoDaddy and my hosting through Dreamhost. I learned the hard way… Leave and learn.

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  12. anonymous Says:

    You guys, he was trying to get rid of opensrs entirely. He couldn’t just ask customers if they wanted to switch, otherwise some would just stay put.

  13. Dave Jeffery Says:

    You guys, he was trying to get rid of opensrs entirely. He couldn’t just ask customers if they wanted to switch, otherwise some would just stay put.

    It is the customers domain, it is there choice if they want to change or not!

  14. bhhenry (fear) Says:

    Ha! Back then (1999), if DreamHost picked a suggestion you made, they would give you a credit on your account. You can thank me for suggesting Open SRS! I did this because I thought it would significantly reduce the price for domain registration for DreamHost customers — OpenSRS was only charging $8 per registration.

    DreamHost ran with the idea, pocketing most of the savings instead of passing them on to their customers. Luckily enom and godaddy came along soon after. I won’t complain too loudly, since all the recent free upgrades have made me very happy ;-)

  15. santos Says:

    Well, I’ll be happy when they start adding new features, but I can understand from the viewpoint of a programmer what it is like to add features that no one is going to see or appreciate. That said, I would like some suggestions to be made, but I doubt I will find a new host that has them. As web hosts go, Dreamhost is the cheapest and good on most things.

    It is a little discomforting that Dreamhost did sneaky transfers, but it is admirable that they told the truth.

  16. AbsolutelyFreeWeb Says:

    Hi, I have actually almost the same experience, but not to change to a registrar account of my own, but to change from one registrar to another.

    I think the problem is the registry rules themselves not allowing transfers without renewals.

    Also, a customer has his agreement with you and by your agreement, I think the folks complaining should first get a lesson in business laws before expressing their views.

    I congratulate you on your achievement!

  17. HeadMan Says:

    Thanks for sharing this…

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